Coach suspended after 161-2 victory. Is that fair?

Ohio just implemented a 30 point mercy rule for football. At that point the clock runs continuously. Should do the same for basketball. Losing team could just foul and the game would be over pretty quickly.

The winning coach should be reprimanded, not fired. He should have known the losing team was REALLY bad this far into the season, and should have rested his varsity and used the game to get JV players experience. He also should have stopped using even the half court press during the second half. However, the losing coach definitely needs to be fired as he clearly has failed his athletes miserably.

They were free throws since the score was 104-1 at the half. The losing team never made a FG.

sc runner wrote:

The winning coach should be reprimanded, not fired. He should have known the losing team was REALLY bad this far into the season, and should have rested his varsity and used the game to get JV players experience. He also should have stopped using even the half court press during the second half. However, the losing coach definitely needs to be fired as he clearly has failed his athletes miserably.

The winning coach should not have been doing full court press after 10 minutes or so into the game after the score was out of hand and the victory secure. Just save that for practice as someone mentioned.

The disparity between some HS athletic teams can be quite wide as others have mentioned. Basically, all the girls on the winning team could get college scholarships. The girls on the losing team are probably the equivalent of the best in a gym class. Imagine a college team playing your gym class.

Doing full court press the entire first half to a score of 104-1 in 20 minutes of playing time is over the top humiliation.

dgp wrote:

This is one of the reasons why women's sports suck so much. There is just not enough talent to go around. A small high school with no athletic girls is just screwed against a team with a few legit players.

NCAA women's basketball has the same problem. There is way to much of a talent gap from the top to the bottom teams.

I too am glad for this woman-bashing opportunity.

angry willy wrote:

HS Kid's coach yell's for him to stop and walk the next 200m.

Does anyone have a problem with these two scenarios?

The only problem with the either of these scenarios is that "yell is for him to stop" is gibberish.

A team in Pa. just beat someone 125-13, it was 74-4 I think at Half time.

Do you know how hard you have to try to score 74 points in 16 minutes in a girls game?

If you do not, then you have no clue.

Their featured player and a DI signee had 30 at Half Time

I am surprised at how many people and its not just on here, think it is okay to run up scores like this, and THAT IS what it is.Running it up.

To score 4 points a minute , is really challenging unless you are shooting threes and playing up tempo.

Rout management is a skill that should be taught to young coaches before they can coach anywhere.

There are plenty of ways to control a score without scoring over 100 points when playing a team if left with a rack of balls and no opposition would struggle to break 20

After a huge lead you can use minimum of 5 passes, run 35 secs a possesion

Acoring 5 points a minute plus and pressing up 100-1 is absurd, and he /she should be fired not suspended, because he /she is a jack ass.

I remember when Dujaun Wagner scored 100 for Camden, years ago, in 32 minutes, and surely coach was pressing the whole game, when someone told me about it, and the achievement, I said, so friggin what? They pressed and he got 20 layups/dunks and a ton of 3's against no one?

This is NOT the pros, where folks get paid to stop other teams

It is bad sportsmanship, which is at least 1 third of the life lesson that should be learned in HS sports.

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I hope the losing coach threatens to quit unless the winning coach's suspension is rescinded. That would be sportsmanship.

This is also why it's called sportsmanship, instead of sportswomanship.

> But Bloomington coach Dale Chung says Arroyo Valley used a full-court press for the entire first half to lead 104-1 at halftime.

> He says if he had it to do again, he'd have played only reserves after the first quarter

To score so many points in the first half means the girls had to be pressing hard. There is no other way.

This is the key point. The Arroyo Valley High coach is an ass and has no business coaching youth sports. It was no surprise that this would be a gross mismatch. There's no reason to use starters at all in such a situation, and the coach should have set minimum number of pass and weak arm shooting rules from the get-go. He could have used the game to get his subs some game time and work on their skills, but no, he had to showboat and set a blowout record.

Dick move on the coach's part.

> The game just got away from me

How hard is it to pull a player out of the game if she refuses to follow instructions on on passing and shooting?

Very well said

There is no way you avg 6+ points a minute without a deliberate plan to run it up

For those that would say as I have heard some , that team practices hard and why should they not use game situations to improve?

Their practices must be way harder than that was, there is NO excuse possible for this.and it is NOT a weenie attitude to denounce this type of coaching.

If ever the term "what goes around........" would be appropriate, this would be it ,along with that Holy Redeemer Pa. coaching a -hole

These idiots do not realize they are running it up on kids? Not coaches or programs?

This is girls basketball we're talking about. Some of these girls will move on to the wnba after college, where no one will watch their games. At least here, they prob have a parent in the stands. Let them run it up. Just a few years and they will never be heard of again, despite playing the best basketball of their lives.

Nice posting name LOL

Still there is no excuse, and I do not think they scored a basket did they? IT was two separate foul shots?

No excuse is plausible for this, none.

And I get all the sides of all the arguments,Just do not agree with any justification.

and this is coming from a guy whose team was on the wrong side of an 82-8 5th grade inter town game , the other town did not stop half court trapping until well into third period

Opposing coach did ask if I wanted score board turned off, I said no way, but you could call off the pressing huh? There was no whining and they(other team) were just way bigger, way faster and skilled, my team had half 4th graders playing up and first time they had ever touched a ball was two weeks prior.

No the winning coach should not be disciplined at all. He should be allowed to full court press the entire game if he feels like it. It is competition, not gym class. It is also a great opportunity for the losing coach to teach those girls a lesson they can use for the rest of their lives: Life is tough. Just because you fail doesn't mean it is going to let up before the clock runs out. It is up to YOU to stop it, not for life to stop itself.

You're insane, and I guarantee you have never coached youth sports at any level, or surely you shouldn;t be

and yeah, I guess that is one life lesson

The other is, the ability to clearly be able to pick out a jerk off out of a line up, probably more valuable.

Why not just call the game after the first quarter? The winning team had nothing to gain unless they were trying to pad their stats. Like a previous poster mentioned, their practices are more competitive than that game.

1) Primary problem is in how such a mismatch gets scheduled

2) A coach should NEVER be expected to tell his/her team to avoid scoring

3) He/she should also NEVER be expected to tell his/her team to let the other team score

3) In this situation a coach SHOULD play all of his/her weakest players

4) He/she should ALSO avoid such tactics as the full-court press

That is all

well said, last poster..

I do think there is a way to hold down score a bit without saying do not score.

You can run your offense all the way through to completion, just like you would in practice . and take 30-40 secs to do that even if you score every time it is less than this was but still a blow out , and no one said let them score either.

Just do not press well past half time up 100-1

well.... wrote:

There's no reason to use starters at all in such a situation, and the coach should have set minimum number of pass and weak arm shooting rules from the get-go. He could have used the game to get his subs some game time and work on their skills, but no, he had to showboat and set a blowout record.

Work on skills like throwing bad passes, or intentionally missing field goals? That would make the scoring margin more "respectable."

When you run you don't play defense.

By running hard you are not preventing your opponent from running fast.