He called his 1:06 a "fun run" in which he won a local race by 4 minutes. That's why he called it a "debut" (he did the quote hand gesture on Flotrack).
He called his 1:06 a "fun run" in which he won a local race by 4 minutes. That's why he called it a "debut" (he did the quote hand gesture on Flotrack).
Never give up, never surrender wrote:
Who cares about all the "debut" crap.
Unless it was the first race he has ever run, it doesn't matter.
He has been running for quite some time, in various distance, many similar to this.
He gets credit for winning. Now, go run against the big boys... put up or shut up.
It matters when you run such a great time like he did as this goes on all time lists.
TLW wrote:
Never give up, never surrender wrote:Who cares about all the "debut" crap.
Unless it was the first race he has ever run, it doesn't matter.
He has been running for quite some time, in various distance, many similar to this.
He gets credit for winning. Now, go run against the big boys... put up or shut up.
It matters when you run such a great time like he did as this goes on all time lists.
The "time" matters.
The "debut" does not.
Also, lists are only for the wannabe's on LRC to argue about.
Never give up, never surrender wrote:
Who cares about all the "debut" crap.
Unless it was the first race he has ever run, it doesn't matter.
He has been running for quite some time, in various distance, many similar to this.
He gets credit for winning. Now, go run against the big boys... put up or shut up.
Wait, what? He just won the US HM championship. Ran the HM in under 61. And in general doesn't seem too fearful of competition or putting it all on the line. What is there to get on his case about? What would justify your childish, 'put up or shut up' comment?
Multiply any race distance by the percentage difference you said was " basically the same thing" between 13.1 and 20k and realize how idiotic you sound.
Do U wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:Not a bad time for a plastic American
Do you ever say anything that is NOT moronic?
Do you ever argue the actual point
Letsrun have mentioned plastic Brits on the homepage this guy by the same measure is a plastic American - he ran for Mexico in 2012 Olympics
malmo wrote:
jjjjj wrote:New York's course is harder than Houston by far.
Huh? It's point to point, downhill and the last 6 miles has the wind at their backs.
You're thinking of the old course, Malmo. The NYC course has had legal start/finish separation and elevation loss for a few years now.
See the "a" on the ARRS (Association of Road Racing Statisticians) list? That means the course is aided. Not legal.
1:00:11 a/x 2 Todd Williams (USA) 07 Mar 1969 12 Jan 1993 Tokyo, Japan
1:00:29 a 2 Abdihakim Abdirahman (USA) 01 Jan 1977 05 Aug 2007 New York, NY, USA
1:00:29.3 a 3 Galen Rupp (USA) 08 May 1986 20 Mar 2011 New York, NY, USA
1:00:39 a 3 Mohamed Trafeh (USA) 13 May 1985 21 Mar 2010 New York, NY, USA
1:01:25 a 6 Shadrack Biwott Kiptoo (USA) 19 Feb 1985 01 Jun 2014 San Diego, CA, USA
1:01:40 a 8 Gabriel Proctor (USA) 29 Apr 1990 01 Jun 2014 San Diego, CA, USA
1:01:41 a 13 Mebrahtom Keflezighi (USA) 05 May 1975 18 Mar 2012 New York, NY, USA
1:01:52 a 9 Jason Hartmann (USA) 21 Mar 1981 17 Mar 2013 New York, NY, USA
1:01:55 a 6 Joshua Rohatinsky (USA) 07 Mar 1982 21 Mar 2010 New York, NY, USA
No, I'm not a "Rupp fan-boy."
New York's course takes you around Central Park through multiple hills far bigger than any of Houston's overpasses before it gets you into fast territory.
How much of it has wind at the runners' backs? That'll vary, but the race goes north for three miles in the park and also is going crosstown west for one stretch and then east in Battery Park, so the extent of any advantage will differ. With regard to altitude, it varies in Central Park in the first six miles between 25 ft and 125 ft, and then it drops to near sea level in Battery Park. So, this is a downhill course only in the sense that the finish is lower than the start. Houston's much easier.
http://www.halfmarathons.net/course-map-new-york-city-half-marathon/
I believe there are different standards between IAAF and USATF (and maybe ARRS) on what is a legal course. For example one allows 40% of distance point-to-point and the other is 50%. That may explain why some say Rupp's 60:30 is aided and some don't.
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