At last our dreams will become reality: Jeremy Wariner may open 2015 up at 800m!!! How fast (slow) will he go?

I think Warner is particularly interesting because he has a lighter build and runs with fast turnover rather than raw power.

So he realistically could move up.

Daryl Basarab wrote:

I think Warner is particularly interesting because he has a lighter build and runs with fast turnover rather than raw power.

So he realistically could move up.

Except that he should have retired years ago.

I knew since December 22, 2014 that JW was going to run 800. My brother figured it out while talking to his mother at a hospital. My sister was having a baby 35 minutes before JW's 2nd son was born. Two babies from Olympic families were born 35 minutes apart at that hospital that day out of only 8 births that day. I remember mentioning it in one of the masters races threads.

I've wanted JW to run the 800 for years. Several members of my family have specialized in 800 meters and I am one of them. If JW had had time to talk to my brother he would have been able to learn a lot about specializing in 800 meters.

Good luck to him. My brother said his family was very nice.

John Steffensen, a 44.73 400m runner ('06 pb), tried something similar last year, looked decent for 550, then ended up running 1:50.08 - in a race won by Duane Solomon in 1:45.95.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFE7SIIpeM

A lot of people think it is easy to run under 1:50, but it is not. He hasn't run well for 400m for a few years so my guess is 1:50 - 1:52 depending on the pace and weather.

1:50.5

This isn't the young EPO'd outta his eyeballs JW who could run a 400 just over 23-seconds slower than his 200 PR.

This is the old, broken-down, drug-free (or so it seems) JW who has seen all his prowess vanish with increased drug-testing.

Look for something competitive with Mary Cain on an off-day.

2:05

1:51

Quick note from washington preview entry list is that Evan Jager is entered in the 800m and the 1k. If he does end up running the 800, who do you guys have as a faster pick: Jager or Wariner? Obviously no one knows for sure when Wariner will run his so this is just for fun, but my pick would be Wariner as I just don't see Jager with that kind of speed especially this early in the year. What do you guys think?

I'm a fan, although I haven't (to be honest) paid much attention to Wariner for the last 5 years. But I went to YouTube, put in "Jeremy Wariner best," and found his WC race in Osaka, 2007. There's a long prelude to the race before the race itself gets underway around 4:30

Impressions:

1) JW has "it," whatever "it" is. He's got the mojo. Just walking around. He's got whatever it is. And he may be the only white guy I've ever seen who actually has that.

2) His race, a 43.45, is the most absurdly effortless win I believe I've ever seen. I remember him as having always had a smooth stride, but this is something else. Watch the race. For the entire last 100, he actually appears to be coasting. Backing OFF the pedal. Yet he pulls ahead.

That is fearsome. Awe-inspiring.

Best of luck to him in the 800. I hope he's still got enough of It to surprise us.

Here's the race;

1:52

I'm on record.....

Totally shocked if he breaks 1:54.

What times do you guys think Warnier has been running in practice and as time-trials to cause him to predict times in the 1:47-1:50 range?

KudzuRunner wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKfYtjLqen8

if u go to 7.20 - he certainly looks very fresh when he finishes. I wouldn't think it possible to look that fresh after a flat out 400.

Couple of years ago, I think he could have gone 1:49, 1:48.

But now, we not seen ANYTHING from him for so long and the lsat season was a disaster. Anyhow, wish him the best, would like to see some comeback!

WC/OC/PRs aside - you all are making the mistake of comparing JW to "dime a dozen" 46s guys. Dime a dozen 46s guys are 200m athletes who can "tough it out" for 400m - and yes, these guys would have trouble breaking 2. But this is the wrong model to use for comparison with JW - I'll cite the last 100m of the race linked above as evidence.

Remove from your minds the 200m guy who moved up to the 400m his senior year of hs and then coach threw him in the 800m "to see what he can do". Wrong model.

I won't hedge my bet from before even in light of this being an early season race: 51.9 + 52.6 = 1:44.5

1:47 justpopped into his mouth wrote:

What times do you guys think Warnier has been running in practice and as time-trials to cause him to predict times in the 1:47-1:50 range?

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[Q]Quick note from washington preview entry list is that Evan Jager is entered in the 800m and the 1k. If he does end up running the 800, who do you guys have as a faster pick: Jager or Wariner? Obviously no one knows for sure when Wariner will run his so this is just for fun, but my pick would be Wariner as I just don't see Jager with that kind of speed especially this early in the year. What do you guys think?[/Q]

from statement

Wariner and coach Clyde Hart even toyed with the idea of running some indoor 600-meter races. Wariner is returning to practice this week after suffering a torn soleus a few months ago. He will be ready for the outdoor season.

A possible target for his 800-meter debut may be late March before the Texas Relays or at a Baylor home meet