Ammar, let me give you big props for coming on here and being willing to debate, I give you back a lot of that respect simply for that.
as far as repping a religion, I think we'll go in endless circles if we start debating chicken/egg arguments over palestine & such.
on the subject of lumping all ppl in a group as dopers based on one persons actions, I agree that it's "not fair" but I would also contend that IF someone really gave two $#its about their reputation, their sports reputation, their sponsors reputation, etc, they would get the hell away from a situation like that. Notice that Mo Trafeh could never get any americans to train with him, but it was a piece of cake to have plenty of moroccans. why do you think nobody from here wanted to have anything to do with him? I think torrence is clean but I question how he could have affiliation even remotely to makloufi or those involved with him. How farah could be training with Hamza is beyond me, that should be VERY scary for nike and the nop. It would be similar to desi davila training with jeptoo right before she was busted. I have no doubt desi is clean but if that hypothetical happened, you know good and well that we ALL would have lots of questions about desi.
anyway, thanks again for posting here, lots of credit for doing so, you're a bigger man that I on that respect (and perhaps some others too :)