Galen Rupp tested FIFTEEN TIMES by USADA in 2014. More than ANYONE in distance running. Is somthing up?

zohan wrote:

or they know he's clean so they can test the crap outta him and ignore some that may be more suspect.

It's like a teacher always calling on the smart kid in class because you know he'll have the right answer.

USADA/WADA hides test results, comminications, and evaluations. It's a secret club that decides who can dope based on market value and Corporate sponsor contributions. It's dirty as hell.

"Fanboy" makes it's inevitable appearance! At least you're consistent. I give up, you're right. Galen Rupp is slower than you. 26:48 is slow. Winning the Pre meet is inconsequential.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Correct.

sc42 is a fanboy short on facts.

Galen Rupp has NEVER won a SINGLE major international race. (ie DL or Championships, on any surface.)

You're stretched so thin you are about to snap. Rupp has done about everything you said he wouldn't and now you are nitpicking semantics of "major" when it comes to clear international races. Wait till he wins one of your "major" races, you will start drafting arguments of how the field was watered down but only after you shrivel into your cave for another shell shocked cry session, followed by denial and then developing your next maniacal fantasy of how what just happened, never really happened, or why it doesn't count!

Keep up the good work, 2015 is off to a great start for you. You should easily retain the title of "jealous and insecure loser award" for this year going away.

Does it hurt to know that before Rupp ever even met Salazar in High School, he could run a mile faster than you ever could?

Go Galen Go wrote:

Doping NOPers wrote:

The cheating punkassbitch doper elfie rupp needs to be tested every day, then put in prison.

I feel really sorry for you. I just don't understand what could cause such anger for no reason.

Galen got tested a lot because he raced a lot, and he went for records. End of story.

That's exactly it, everything else is just noise.

TrackCoach wrote:

Go Galen Go wrote:

I feel really sorry for you. I just don't understand what could cause such anger for no reason.

Galen got tested a lot because he raced a lot, and he went for records. End of story.

That's exactly it, everything else is just noise.

Indeed.

22 T&F athletes tested between 9-15 times. Rupp is no outlier.

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

The real issue is how many times Gatlin was tested (12). Why would Rupp be tested more than a convicted doper who just had a suspiciously good season? Certainly Gatlin should have been tested more than Rupp. Of course, since the tests suck at catching dopers, more tests probably wouldn't catch Gatlin anyways. If 12 tests can't catch Gatlin, then certainly 15 won't catch Rupp, who, while likely on a little dope, is certainly not as doped as Gatlin.

It would seem, though, that a positive test of Gatlin would be more likely to be reported, since he has been outed before and is not well-liked. Another reported positive for Gatlin would do little harm to the sport, while a positive for Rupp would be a disaster that Nike would probably try to cover up.

One very important thing, 'Nike' is not in the doping business. The world's largest sports apparel company is not going to risk its brand by participating in doping athletes from a sport which it only recieves a minor portion of its revenue. (Stop Calling Out Nike!!! - Athletes dope, and sometimes with the assistance of people who directly benefit from an athlete's perofrmance like coaches and agents, etc.)

Rupp was tested a lot becasue between indoor/outdoor, he raced a lot n 2014 and had several record attempts which automatically prompts testing. That's all there is to that. Gatlin was tested a lot as well, I think there are about 4 tests he is required to take regardless of his racing or training schedule. However, he was tested less than Rupp becasue he ran in several low profile non-DL meets which probably did not test and he were never made a record attempts.

zohan wrote:

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USADA/WADA hides test results, comminications, and evaluations. It's a secret club that decides who can dope based on market value and Corporate sponsor contributions. It's dirty as hell.[/quote]

I think this model is accurate.

zohan wrote:

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USADA/WADA hides test results, comminications, and evaluations. It's a secret club that decides who can dope based on market value and Corporate sponsor contributions. It's dirty as hell.[/quote]

I think this model is accurate.

[quote]ryan foreman wrote:

Ask yourself. Would Rupp go out of his way to say "on record" that any or his competitor's are clean. Why would he? Why would anyone do that?

How do I know you are not a serial killer? Or a crack dealer? I'm certainly not going to say you are not.

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Ryan, read what you wrote very carefully. Why would you write such an idiotic statement? Why would anyone?

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

dog is on my side. wrote:

OP, gimme a break, he had at least 15 races where he would have been potentially tested

1. He absolutely didn't run 15 races in 2014.

2. As already pointed out^, this is only through three quarters of 2014. There will obviously be more still.

Sorry, fanboy. If it was about frequency or quality of racing, Simpson would be tested like crazy. But that's not what gets you tested.

I'll say it again: This is a massive outlier, any way you slice it. This just can not be denied but anyone who can read numbers.

Actually, you know who else was tested ALMOST as much? 12 tests for Mo Trafeh in 2013.

1) Boston Multi Team

2) Boston Terrier

3) NB Grand Prix

4) US Indoor Champs

5) World Indoor Champs

6) Oxy HP

7) Prefontaine Classic

8) DL Oslo

9) US Outdoor

10) DL Paris

11) DL Stockholm

12) DL Zurich

13) DL Brussels

Maybe not exactly 15 races, but he was pretty darn close

Bad Wigins wrote:

sc42 wrote:

Have you heard of the Diamond League?

the rupp-certified AR 10,000 was not a DL race.

I didn't say it was.... the point was just that it was a major win at the year's only real top flight 10,000 in a DL meet. To my knowledge, none of the sub 27 10,000 WRs were DL races though I'm not going to waste a bunch of time looking it up to rebut Rupp Certified Shitforbrains.

Waste of $$$ wrote:

This is all for show. Rupp is on the Nike "protected" list. He will never have a positive test that will be seen by the public. Much like Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong. This also allows the ignorant to claim that he must be clean because he hasn't failed a test.

Yeah - I was actually thinking that Rupp's "Testing" data was being used by USADA and Nike to really refine windows of testing failure.

The RCS and Bad Wigins rule for this is simple: if Rupp wins or does well it was not a real race. Example 1: Olympic final - irrelevant. Example 2: If Rupp beats several 26:50 Kenyans (including the 2013 bronze medalist, Bett and Karoki) and Ethiopians or Eritreans, it is not a major race because Farah (gold 2013) and Jeilan (silver 2013) were not there. Never mind that Farah (gold 2013) did not run a 5000 in 2104 and Koech (silver 2013) only mustered a 13:07 in 2014. All of the 5000s are legit and major races. Example 3: Rupp is paced to a US record at Payton Jordan but beaten by Solinsky - classic race and Solinsky did not just sit and kick.

BTW, I have no idea if Rupp or anyone else is dirty. The track guys are running a lot slower than the top guys did a decade ago. Some marathoners are probably dirty. It is hard to say who exactly.

zohan wrote:

It's like a teacher always calling on the smart kid in class because you know he'll have the right answer.

Said nobody about Rupp, ever.

TrackCoach wrote:

Go Galen Go wrote:

I feel really sorry for you. I just don't understand what could cause such anger for no reason.

Galen got tested a lot because he raced a lot, and he went for records. End of story.

That's exactly it, everything else is just noise.

What about all those runners who raced more.

Simpson outperformed Rupp hands down. Two tests. Jager AR. Six. Symmonds out for the season. Nine. Ritz useless. 11.

Your argument is devastated by the facts. Sorry about that.

coach jw wrote:

22 T&F athletes tested between 9-15 times. Rupp is no outlier.

Lol.

Between 9 and 15? What does that have to do with anything?

Hey, idiot, I know 22 guys between 6'3 and 6'11". Does that mean my 6'11 friend isn't an outlier?

Did you go to Oregon?

So, any with more than 15? A single one? Waiting for your answer...

Fanboys' argument must be lost; here come the ad hominem attacks.

sc42 wrote:

none of the sub 27 10,000 WRs were DL races though I'm not going to waste a bunch of time looking it up to rebut Rupp Certified Shitforbrains.

God you're ignorant about the sport.

Almost as bad as A Dork ;)

What makes you think Nike doesn't know what substances WADA/USADA are testing for? I suspect Rupp was tested zero times in 2014 for the stuff he's taking.