skinnbones wrote:
The difficult part is that when someone says Grant did XXX today or did YYY today, people think he does that same workout a lot or that's all we do.
Mike
It's quotes like this that give the impression of arrogance. What people think that? No coach thinks that, no one who has run season after season thinks that. For decades Runner's World had an athlete showcase article with a week sample of workouts listed. No one thought that they just repeated that week over and over.
"He wasn’t capable of doing speedwork because he hasn’t been old enough, strong enough and couldn’t recover from it, so we didn’t do it."
This is a bunch of cr@p.
48+9 wrote:
[quote]Another Option wrote:
[quote]48 +9 wrote:
[quote]coachkritter wrote:[/b
It would seem there is clear data to back up the claim of soccer players running 6 miles and more during a match:
http://gizmodo.com/5992583/how-far-do-you-run-in-different-sportsGizmodo? LMAO Well seems Barnum and Bailey were right after all.
By the way I have some ocean side real estate in Nevada you might be interested in.
You have quite an effective argument.
someone that doesn't know wrote:
Someonethatknows wrote:Scannell has had success with ALL of the athletes that he trains. He can transform a kid that has no business running into a legit runner. As far as I know, he is the only coach to have 2 athletes in the dream mile (Omar Kaddurah and Grant Fisher) and that speaks to his ability to really bring the best out of his athletes. Scannell is not a coach of a high school and rarely trains girls. He has a small dedicated group of athletes that are goal driven, determined and successful not only in running, but in life. Scannell is not just a running coach - he is a mentor to all of his athletes. Basically every single runner he coaches has a chance to run in college and it is up to the athlete to decide if that is what he wants to do.
As far as training goes, it is all very similar to what Grant does. There is an emphasis on tempos, long runs, and hills. Grant may go faster in workouts than the other kids, but generally every other athlete does the same thing that Grant does. The group that Scannell coaches is no more than 8 boys. Scannell's runners trust him with their training and that is probably why his athletes succeed. Part of that is due to the fact that Scannell himself is a fantastic runner, he routinely runs with athletes during tempos. He really does lead by example and has a profound positive impact on all his athletes.
So he transforms kids that have no business running into legit runners and dream mile types? Certainly it's not just by doing 8x400. I mean, if he's only coaching a group of 8 boys, I can't imagine him taking on guys that can't break 5:00 in the mile to start with. I picture "no business running" as boys that can't break 6:00 in the mile as freshman after XC season is over.
No offense to Scannell, I like what he's doing, but is the guy really a miracle worker? Turning water into wine?
Here's some homework for you. Research Brett Burdick. Look at his MHSAA performances. It's going to take some searching on your part. After you have the researching done, plot out the improvements, look at the spike in performances. And see if you can pinpoint when Scannell started coaching him.
That, my friend, is just one example of a kid who improved significantly under Mr Scannell.
People on this board should leave their thoughts to themselves. Why does this matter to you? Mike is doing a fine job coaching his kids, and was nice enough to respond to this thread when he didn't need to, while the you craphats sit in your basement master-bating and whining about times and accomplishments you will never have.
Yes, but can Mike put the workouts together for Grant to run a 3:55 mile in 2015?
Alexa Ephraimson is 17, and you can see her talent while running quality workouts.
So far you see the kick in a 4:02 mile, and an orchestrated acceleration on a hill.
He could get destroyed in college anyway.
fred wrote:
Yes, but can Mike put the workouts together for Grant to run a 3:55 mile in 2015?
Alexa Ephraimson is 17, and you can see her talent while running quality workouts.
So far you see the kick in a 4:02 mile, and an orchestrated acceleration on a hill.
He could get destroyed in college anyway.
Wait wait, are you seriously suggesting that leaving it all in a workout is better than leaving it all during races?
For a time I thought letsrun hated Rupp because he might dope, and wasn't friendly; Lagat because he "wasn't american" and might have doped; Farah because he won in slow races; Dressel because he made a few mistakes on Twitter. Now I realize, you guys just hate everyone. Fisher is an outstanding person and runner, kind, intelligent, friendly, savvy, and fast, and still there's this hate. I can't understand why there's this need to bring people down.
Leaving it all? He's barely scratched the surface.
Nobody's hating anyone. It's a running site where every bit of training and racing gets dissected.
Rabbit speaks the truth wrote:
People on this board should leave their thoughts to themselves. Why does this matter to you? Mike is doing a fine job coaching his kids, and was nice enough to respond to this thread when he didn't need to, while the you craphats sit in your basement master-bating and whining about times and accomplishments you will never have.
Its a message board and people were saying he sounded arrogant, others were saying he wasnt arrogant. I simple posted a possible reason that would give people that impression. It doesn't REALLY matter to me either way. But do you feel that everyone who posts on a message board is a craphat that sits in their basemt materbating...... or just people who disagree with you...... a person who is posting on a message board who should be asking themselves "why does this matter to me?"
Hi Mike,
Can you tell us about the hill workouts on Perryville Road? In particular: How long are the hills? Do you know the approximate gradient of the climbs?
Thanks for the info. I really enjoyed the article.
Joe
I'm not understanding the statement "not ready for speed." When playing soccer, all it is is speed work. Short hard intervals for 90 minutes. Now that Grant is not playing soccer, can't his body handle faster type of interval workouts? I can understand just doing longer type tempos runs paired with soccer, but once soccer is not in the mix anymore why not add faster intervals? Think Emily Lipari.
Wouldn't a good analogy be a stud high school baseball pitcher who is under pressure to hit 100 mph and pitch many innings to lead his HS team to a championship ? The proper thing to do would be limit his innings and help him have a successful career after HS instead of being the local guy who had it all but got hurt.
Skin, thanks for sharing and congrats on making a difference.
fred wrote:
Yes, but can Mike put the workouts together for Grant to run a 3:55 mile in 2015?
Alexa Ephraimson is 17, and you can see her talent while running quality workouts.
So far you see the kick in a 4:02 mile, and an orchestrated acceleration on a hill.
He could get destroyed in college anyway.
Fred, you are retarded.
3:55 is a time very few pro track athletes have ever run. You don't get it, Grant and his coach are fine with where they are at and if 4 happens great but it is not their primary focus. You probably have never broken 5 minutes. Which would mean no one has ever seen a kick from you nor any form of orchestrated win. College, if you even made it to or out of college, you were probably destroyed in your 100 level classes.
Get a life Fred, accomplish something, get a job that pays you enough to possibly be noticed by a girl. Otherwise go F yourself.
What's a matter boy? He's 4:02 with no real speedwork, just hills and low mileage.
That's why his coach says he's a sub 4 miler.
Al Sal could have him at 3:55 by August.
fred wrote:
Al Sal could have him at 3:55 by August.
Like he did for Rupp at that age. Sure.
fred wrote:
Leaving it all? He's barely scratched the surface.
Nobody's hating anyone. It's a running site where every bit of training and racing gets dissected.
Dissect Fred.
Fool
Retard
Egotistical
Dumb
Grant's best tactic and greatest tool, his mind. "When that happens I want just to sit back and watch or something to that effect." We saw that once the race was done at Foot Locker. Grant rested up a bit to make sure the last little bit, the crossing the road, the slight incline to the slight downhill finish left no question who was the best this year seeing Tanner had run and won NXN.
NO way this kid breaks 4
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