get used to it.. wrote:
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term
ok, this will be fun, then I will take a break. BUT FOR ONCE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFE, actually read what I write, instead of blocking your eyes and ears. And give me a non-troll, half-way intelligent/honest reply if you, actually addressing my points, if you are capable of this-
What does your study show? (and I just read the actual study, not just the summary)-
1) well first I should state: the study has some flaws-
a) they apparently didn't even bother, other than taking ketone levels, to track what they participants actually ate. No diet records, no recalls, nothing. So we know what they were instructed to eat, but not what they ate (and this can work both ways: against or for either diet)
b) the "low fat" group was told eat 30% fat. This is not really "low fat". Also, they were not told to restrict sat fat or cholesterol, which are the keys to cutting LDL and total cholesterol. So they didn't test that theory, and we don't even know if the low fat group ate less sat fat than the low carb group (likely, but not certain)
On to findings:
2) both groups lost basically "SAME WEIGHT" ( actually, the low fat group lost ~2.5 lbs more, but it was not "significant".). Over and over and over and over again, you tell me that low carb is better for weight loss than low fat. And I tell, if you calories are kept equal, this is not true, and in the long term, low carb will not be better for low fat for weight loss. this study proves me right, and you wrong, on that point
3) the topic of this thread is more about high LDL and total cholesterol. What were the findings on this? No significant difference, but a better LDL reduction on low fat. It *was* significantly better in the early part of the study when the low-carb dieters were really restricting their carbs.
4) low carb was not better for TG's, as often the case.
5) total cholesterol/HDL ratio was not significantly different between groups
so....... the only significant difference between the two diets in results was the HDL number. (But there were slightly better weight loss and LDL reduction with low fat).
But remember, as I've linked to you dozens of times, experts are now seriously calling into question if HDL is even protective.
So, this study that you so excitedly linked to doesn't really show anything exceptional or better about a low carb diet. Worse weight loss, worse LDL reduction, and I failed to mention, many more drop outs than the low fat diet. It did show that if you are obese, and stick to a diet, ANY diet, and cut calories and lose weight, you will have benefits. This is what I've said all along.
Thanks for offering evidence to back several of my past points.