fan of US distance running wrote:
Not any different than a hernia check for a sports physical. Both are strange, both cannot be accomplished a different way and both are required to compete at a certain level. You do understand why they have to watch the urine come out of you right?
Except it is nothing like that.
Hernia checks are scheduled by you at a time you choose. And you are seeing a doctor.
Pissing in a cup in the manner I described above is done randomly, by someone who is not a doctor.
It is weird. It is very strange you're acting like it's not.[/quote]
Alright, I'll bite. I am not acting like anything. I don't think THIS PROTOCOL is weird if you want to collect a sample that has not been tampered with. Do you know how people tamper with samples? They use a fake bladder, they put a condom full of clean pee up their anus, they put something on their finger that will foul their test. They put a bladder full of urine under their armpit and squeeze it through a tube.
You need me to go on? So that is WHY someone needs to watch the urine come out of your body, to make sure it REALLY IS coming out of YOUR body.
Do you suggest a way this could be accomplished with random testing? If you do, nobody cares because random drug testing is not organized around what you feel is comfortable or convenient or NOT WEIRD for you. It is designed to catch drug cheats and that is the best way to do it.
Why is it so different from what I said? Because the drug tester is not a doctor? It IS STRANGE to get a hernia check for a physical, every sports physical I ever got was put on my the school and I did not know the doctor. So YES, I signed up for the physical, I knew they were going to be touching my groin, but there is NEVER another situation where someone I have never met touches my groin, for money NO LESS. So YES, this is an UNUSUAL SITUATION.
But you know it is going to happen and you pay for it and it is part of playing a sport.
Drug testing for athletes is THE SAME in that respect. What other situation will you be forced to have someone watch you pee into a specimen cup, with you clothes pulled down? NONE.
But you know it is going to happen and you pay for it and it is part of playing THE sport.