Kate Van Buskirk was wrong - new TomTom ad is amazing

Oh please, Kate used to make out with girls and guys in the same night in HS. She loves the attention, and yes would parade around in her sports bra at meets, and shave her heads to get more "looks"... but then! she would always talk about how disgusting it is for guys to check out a girl or use sex to sell anything etc.

Really just a basket case.

Fast girl though so have to give her props there.

Sorry one more thing, what has Kate done for all of you to think she is so intelligent?

Went to Duke and failed out? Maybe that's why you shouldn't cry and beg and get your teachers to up your HS grades to get into the Uni you want. . .

Showing a guys package is not the same as showing breasts, not everyone has balls and a penis. Everyone has breasts. Get over it, it's not a big deal.

And Kate isn't an intellectual. She is another angry internet feminazi. Se should stay in tumblr, where her kind belong. Or the kitchen, as long as she doesn't get in the way of real conversation and progress.

Yes and you come across as very intellectual.

Showing a guys package is not the same as showing breasts, not everyone has balls and a penis. Everyone has breasts. Get over it, it's not a big deal.

And Kate isn't an intellectual. She is another angry internet feminazi. Se should stay in tumblr, where her kind belong. Or the kitchen, as long as she doesn't get in the way of real conversation and progress.

Thank you! I'm glad somebody at least understands basic anatomy.

More intellectual than crying "muh-soj-in-y" every time someone does something that I don't agree with.

She's absolutely right. That ad is using tits to sell a running product and not the virtues of the product itself.

The only appropriate response is "I know it's wrong but I like tits".

That's because marketing is about creating an emotional response. Showing an attractive woman is no more offensive than showing a humorous video. Advertising rarely explains the virtue of the product.

It's restricted to "Over 18" on YouTube (must sign in to watch it) so her censorship campaign seems to have had an impact. If I can find a couple of her videos maybe I'll try to get them censored.

For the record: the ad is stupid.

Good call, disinformation thread. Marathon Man 21 made an invalid analogy: the male genitalia would correspond to the female genitalia, not female breasts.

Besides, for every guy that believes that women should be reduced to their parts & appearance is a woman who believes that a man's sole worth is in his wallet.

Does anyone else find it funny the way snobs and liberals like Marathon Man 21 unfailingly try to defend their views with blanket accusations that anyone who doesn't agree is uneducated? Yet no proof of this idiocy or lack of education is ever provided, it's just supposed to be self-evident, implying that the opinions of said liberals are obviously correct. So very, very arrogant. Why do they feel the need to call others stupid? It's almost like they're afraid of being called stupid, and would rather point the finger first, before it gets pointed at them.

Remember all the women going crazy over the Old Spice guy ?

None of them were even using the product.

Reminds me somewhat of this:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2398957/Hilarious-Benefit-Cosmetics-ad-ad-shows-women-ogling-mens-bulges-stuffed-MASCARA.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V68UXteyuFg (full video)

Marathon Man 21 wrote:

That is not true. If a guy was seen running with his package swaying back and forth followed by a young teenage girl smiling, it would be seen as disgusting. This is a double standard. Some of you feel that women should be reduced to their body parts, and the purpose of women is to give men pleasure. You get an intelligent woman like Kate making comments and some of the idiots on here start saying things like, "personality disorder", or "prude". I forgot, women are suppose to shut up and not give opinion. Or doing the other thing some idiot males do is try to make her feel slutty for walking around in a sports bra while arguing that women's breasts should be used to advertise tom toms.

Some of the guys on here need to get a little education.

I love breasts. I love the commercial. It did not convince me to buy the product, but whatever.

CanadianGuy wrote:

Sorry one more thing, what has Kate done for all of you to think she is so intelligent?

Went to Duke and failed out? Maybe that's why you shouldn't cry and beg and get your teachers to up your HS grades to get into the Uni you want. . .

I'm not sure where you are getting that she failed out of Duke.

I will confirm your first point regarding the HS stuff. She had/has pretty liberal views on relationships/sex/sexual orientation/gender equality etc. But I'm not sure how being a bit narcissistic, walking around in a bra top or making out with boys and girls at the same party implies that you can't speak out against the sexual objectification of women?

Women speaking out against white male privilage or misogyny can be uncomfortable for many men to listen to or read about, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true.

I don't really have a problem with the ad. I think that it is funny and that it is doing its job; especially if people find it polarizing.

CanadianGuy wrote:

Sorry one more thing, what has Kate done for all of you to think she is so intelligent?

Went to Duke and failed out? Maybe that's why you shouldn't cry and beg and get your teachers to up your HS grades to get into the Uni you want. . .

It sounds like you're just upset she didn't make out with you...

Breasts aren't overtly sexual objects. Penises are. If you care to research, Canada's supreme court has confirmed this distinction. Your comparison's weak. An ad focusing on a guy's junk wouldn't be aired because it would be explicit, not sexist. As would an ad that focused on camel toe. I realize the ridiculousness of using the word camel toe in a semi-serious argument, but I think you're dead wrong.

For what it's worth, this isn't about Kate for me. From the few encounters I've had she seems super cool and it's awesome that she openly expresses her opinions without hiding behind anonymity (unlike me). You guys take away from your points by cheap shotting her character and making up nasty rumours. But in this case, she's way off. So are you, Marathon Man 21.

No it isn't wrote:

For what it's worth, this isn't about Kate for me. From the few encounters I've had she seems super cool and it's awesome that she openly expresses her opinions without hiding behind anonymity (unlike me). You guys take away from your points by cheap shotting her character and making up nasty rumours. But in this case, she's way off. So are you, Marathon Man 21.

Good post. Some of the stuff in this thread is truly pathetic.

letsrun psychologist wrote:

CanadianGuy wrote:

Sorry one more thing, what has Kate done for all of you to think she is so intelligent?

Went to Duke and failed out? Maybe that's why you shouldn't cry and beg and get your teachers to up your HS grades to get into the Uni you want. . .

It sounds like you're just upset she didn't make out with you...

She did though . . .

CanadianGuy wrote:

letsrun psychologist wrote:

It sounds like you're just upset she didn't make out with you...

She did though . . .

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