Strange Cain strategy and interaction at US Juniors

J.R. wrote:

Salazar is paranoid about people taking the lead.

Thank goodness he didn't coach

Mary Decker

Salazar did coach Mary Decker. He was her coach when she was caught with the high testosterone/epitestosterone levels.

Insufferable Know-It-All wrote:

J.R. wrote:

Salazar is paranoid about people taking the lead.

Thank goodness he didn't coach

Mary Decker

Salazar did coach Mary Decker. He was her coach when she was caught with the high testosterone/epitestosterone levels.

Haha.

Confuzzled wrote:

Genius. It was the Oregon women's coach. Maurica Powell. Andy's wife.

What the f*** are you talking about? I know what you're saying, I'm telling you I don't believe you. I said "woman" I know you were talking about Powell. I'm not going to watch any video. There's just no way what the OP is saying is true. There could be smaller parts of the story that have some truth but not for a second do I believe the entirety of that story.

Why would MP know what Mary is supposed to do? Why would she be in charge of calling Salazar? If Salazar was so concerned why wasn't someone from the NOP there?

Cain really is not smart enough to follow a race plan when she's the clear favorite? Why would she need to slow down and follow someone if she needed to hit a standard? The fact that I could list 50 of these tells me the story is BS.

Steve Magness actually tweeted about this yesterday, giving no specifics, but has since deleted the tweet. Essentially he was making fun of the coaching instructions during the women's 3k. It would not surprise me if he is OP.

J.R. wrote:

Salazar is paranoid about people taking the lead.

Thank goodness he didn't coach

Mary Decker

Insufferable Know-It-All wrote:

Salazar did coach Mary Decker. He was her coach when she was caught with the high testosterone/epitestosterone levels.

I'm not sure but thought Brown was coaching her at that point, and Salazar started coaching much later. In any case, (1) she wasn't leading any races at that point, (2) she wasn't caught using anything, and (3) she was cleared.

J.R. wrote:

J.R. wrote:

Salazar is paranoid about people taking the lead.

Thank goodness he didn't coach

Mary Decker

Insufferable Know-It-All wrote:

Salazar did coach Mary Decker. He was her coach when she was caught with the high testosterone/epitestosterone levels.

I'm not sure but thought Brown was coaching her at that point, and Salazar started coaching much later. In any case, (1) she wasn't leading any races at that point, (2) she wasn't caught using anything, and (3) she was cleared.

She was caught with a very high elevated T:E ratio. The ONLY test for testosterone they had back in the day.

The IAAF did NOT clear her. They considered her banned, only the corrupt USATF cleared her.

Salazar was her coach at this time.

Confuzzled wrote:

http://bit.ly/1ku0KVX

Go to 5:20 into the video. 4 laps in.

You'll see Powell in stands in pink.

Then mary glance over at Powell. Then Mary does this weird move out to let he is pass.

That does seem bizarre.

Mo Ron wrote:

The two of you who laughed at my post have probably never raced on the track and tried to hear splits yelled at you.

Even hearing "61" is hard let alone such a sentence.

Please tell us at what point in the middle of a 3k did Mary Cain run a 61.

Overheard at the track wrote:

3 laps in, I overhear the UO coach say "Mary was supposed to wait 2 laps to take the lead. I need to call alberto"

In addition to what others have said about the infeasibility of yelling a long sentence to someone who is running a race, who the heck announces their thoughts and intentions aloud like this? People in movies make asides like this because they know people are watching and want to communicate their inner thoughts to the audience. People in real life don't just blurt out "Mary was supposed to wait 2 laps to take the lead. I need to call [A]lberto" loud enough for all to hear.

Whatever was or wasn't said, why does MC look up and then move out in to lane 2?

Was Magness there poaching more athletes since he can't develop his own?

I don't understand why Cain has to let other people pass her, she's the class of the field, no one is faster than her, and everyone knows she's going to win no matter what... Why can't she just lead wire to wire, and make sure she gets that 9:35 qualifier? I love NOP, but now I'm starting to lose a little respect for them due the their race strategies, and how the NEVER take the lead until the last lap, like they're going to get an erruption on lactic acid injected into their muscles if they lead 1 second before the end of the race... Cain had no bisuness trying to sit on someone who is not even close to being on her level, I wish she was more like Jenny Simpson, Emma Coburn, but she'll never be with Salazar as her coach... A lot of those young girls in the race (even Stephanie Jenks) probabaly look up to her as a runner, and to see her not leading the way and taking charge is kinda of diminishing to the role she's claiming to have...

Cain: "I feel honored to be leading the pack of this young talent"

Salazar defintely should have advised her with a different strategy

I believe the OP and I think UO track should let Alberto donate financially, but keep their distance from him coaching-wise. He drove Vin nuts with his coaching of Rupp, when technically Rupp was an NCAA student-athlete enrolled at UO.

Powell shouldn't cave into Salazar's wishes. Cain is under Salazar's guidance now, Powell isn't being paid to coach her.

This is not an idiotic post if you've lived in Eugene or Portland and followed the NIKE/UO power structure. Ask Martin Smith how that went for him.

UO needs to tell Salazar to step back.

Ha, Magness was over there. But it was because his guy who got 2nd in the 5k was up next.

This is a very insightful comment about a race where Mary Cain led wire-to-wire, beat Jenks by 13 seconds and came in 20 seconds below the qualifying time.

"I love NOP, but now I'm starting to lose a little respect for them due the their race strategies, and how the NEVER take the lead until the last lap, like they're going to get an erruption on lactic acid injected into their muscles if they lead 1 second before the end of the race... "

NOP gets their racing strategies from nikeman. Pimp 'em and pop 'em.

I think a lot of people are talking to themselves on this thread...

Hey, me too.

wellnow4 wrote:

She was caught with a very high elevated T:E ratio. The ONLY test for testosterone they had back in the day.

The IAAF did NOT clear her. They considered her banned, only the corrupt USATF cleared her.

Salazar was her coach at this time.

That's like saying you "caught" someone for posting a dumb thread on LR. However, my catching you and and considering you banned is simply a matter of OPINION, and means nothing.