Don't think the elks paid PM. I think they paid out money for race expenses, didn't get a lot of runners, and lost $4k. She helped in putting on the race, so they wanted her to pitch in money to cover the costs (i.e., share the loss).
That's Steve's story, but who knows what to believe about this whole business? Maybe they did pay her.
phredryka wrote:
The first several pages were mocking the Concerned San Antonian who has since disappeared.
I would bet money that he didn't disappear, he just started posting under different names after being outed.
Larry Macon is loved and admired by thousands?
He only have 78 twitter followers.
@MarathonManiacL Is his profile.
phredryka wrote:
Hey steve.... remember when you posted as runbigfoot and introduced yourself to us? Now quit using Option 1, Distract please.
We really would love to hear from you about WHY cheat?? And yes! we would love to run with you! At a 100.
Runbigfoot wrote:My name is Steve Holehan and I have known and run with Parvaneh for several years.
Jason E. Reichenberg is the name of Concerned San Antonion. I also know the names of a many of the other "anonymous" posters but I'll leave them alone since only Jason will be named in the defamation lawsuit. The question that I have for Jason is, Are you representing the Elks Lodge with your accusations?
I can attest to the fact that Parvaneh's finish times in her races are valid. She has run marathons for 15 years. She trained and improved her times by running at least 16 miles a day for several years. Her marathon time improved from 4:20s to consistent sub 4s. She has BQ'd numerous times. Since she started running 100 mile and 24/48 hour races her marathon times have suffered. Check Marathonguide or Athlinks to see how her times and distances have trended over the years. Her long term goal was to train to finish the Badwater 135 mile Ultra which she completed last summer.
Anyone who can finish Badwater has earned the right to be critical. All the naysayers can suck 125F sandy desert air or come out to Lone Pine in two weeks to witness her second finish.
The Elks races don't count for Guinness records. Parvaneh's Guinness records are already completed.
The truth about Jason hiding behind the anonymity of "Concerned San Antonion" (ant onion?) and probably a few other avatars posting here is that he is upset because he thought that the Elks Lodge would get thousands of runners in the 5K and make bundles of money. In fact they only got 35 or so runners.
Runners and volunteers who run Parvaneh's races can testify that the Elks Lodge, through Jason Reichenberg, contacted her in early 2014 to ask her to help with the races and partner with her. She donated her time, effort and knowledge into helping the lodge to support the Flag Day Event. Last year she put on 3 days Father's Day events that she gave up in 2014 to support the Elks, a group that she thought was honest and forthright. She advised the Lodge, but her advice was ignored and the Lodge lost money. Jason then tried to get her to pay for some of the $4,000 in losses. There was no contract with the Lodge and therefore Moayedi was not obligated to cover their losses and told him so. Two weeks later this "anonymous" man has nothing better to do than talk badly about her rather than taking responsibility for his poor business decisions. This guy isn't even a marathon runner and doesn't have the guts to say who he is.
Just As Some Organizers Never blame others for their mistakes, instead Mister Anonymous Troll Elk makes up lies and hides behind the internet because he can't reconcile the fact that he screwed up. He is cruel and mean, but most damaging is that Jason reflects poorly on the attributes of the Benevolent and Protective Order of the Elk's Lodge. When I travel and see their lodges around the country now all I can think about is what this person is doing. I wonder if all Elks are as evil as this person?
Parvaneh's races are not designed for elite runners looking for big crowds and cash awards. She encourages runners who go from couch to 5k to half to marathon and beyond. She doesn't put pressure on runners to finish within a time constraint. She stays at the race until the last runner is done. After having run many races where the post race amenities are consumed before even the 4:30 finishers come home she came up with the motto "No Runner Left Behind".
Since becoming a race director Parvaneh has been attacked by prejudiced persons hanging homemade routered wooden signs on trees on the course and painting slurs on the sidewalks (reported to San Antonio police), fake facebook posters and now this anonymous buffoon. Be a man, accept your mistakes, come out from behind the curtain and get a life. Are your friends and family proud of you, Jason?
Larry Macon is loved and admired by thousands of runners worldwide. He is an inspiration for all runners. San Antonio is proud to have 2 Guinness book of world record holders in running!
If you can't literally run in someone else's shoes then you have no right to criticize their times and their accomplishments.
Parvaneh and Larry run marathons every single weekend. I challenge any of you to show the endurance that these two Masters Athletes possess and follow them.
Upon reflection, there are two things about Steve's Holehan's original post that stand out for me:
1) Steve presents himself as someone who has "known and run with Parvaneh for several years" without mentioning that he's her husband. I'm sure there are many ways to verify the relationship, but the first piece of verification I found was this article -
http://beefmagazine.com/blog/fuel-protein-packed-beef- published by BEEF Magazine.
2) Steve is the first person on the thread to link Parvaneh Moayedi with Badwater. Absent that link, I would have stopped following the thread after Steve outed the OP.
I for one don't really care about the whole FM / Guinness record thing, but I now do care about whether PM's Badwater results are legit and will do what I can to help resolve that question.
Why would Holeman call attention to Badwater in that post, if he knew PM cheated in 2013 and would possibly cheat in 2014?
Makes no sense to call attention to it if there was any cheating going on.
I feel like some of you are being trolled by fake PM defending trolls just trying to egg you on. Not that this applies to all of the defenders, but at least a good amount are definitely trolls.
what if?? wrote:
Why would Holeman call attention to Badwater in that post, if he knew PM cheated in 2013 and would possibly cheat in 2014?
Makes no sense to call attention to it if there was any cheating going on.
Why indeed? And why would SH present himself as something other than PM's husband? The whole business is just strange. It also seems somewhat sad since from what I can gather, PM's running is currently the couple's primary source of income.
I have no problem with folks keeping their own names, but most married couples don't hide it so much on FB/etc.
Looks like other press writes them up... but for him to phrase "I have known and run with PM..." as opposed to "I am PM's husband." It is intentionally misleading.
http://www.100marathonclub.us/Newsletters/newsletter_14.htm
Steven Holehan and his wife Parvaneh Moayedi, from Austin, Texas, reached their 100th marathons within a few months of each other. Steven ran his first marathon on January 17, 1999, the Houston Marathon at Houston, Texas, and his 100th marathon was completed on May 6, 2007, at the Vancouver Marathon in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
2009 Chevron Houston Marathon newsletter:
http://www.chevronhoustonmarathon.com/Upload/documents/2009%20Veterans%20News%20Fall.pdf
From Steve Holehan—My wife, Parvaneh
Moayedi, (who will run her tenth consecutive
HM in January) and I just returned from a
running vacation to South America and
Antarctica, where we ran together in both the
March 10, Antarctica Marathon on King
George Island and the April 5, Santiago,
Chile Marathon.
"Known and run with." Think Guinness knows this? What are the odds he is her impartial observer on the course to certify her records?
It would be interesting to hear from some of her crew at BW - have any of them come out supporting her finish (other than her husband)? And if some or all of her crew were in on cheating they should also be similarly outed.
dkny64 wrote:
Why indeed? And why would SH present himself as something other than PM's husband? The whole business is just strange. It also seems somewhat sad since from what I can gather, PM's running is currently the couple's primary source of income.
There are only two reasons for not being straightforward about his relationship with PM:
1) It has something to do with the scamming of Guinness World Records, Iranian Marathon participants, spectators, etc.
2) She's his beard and he doesn't want the gents to think he's taken.
BW Crew? wrote:
It would be interesting to hear from some of her crew at BW - have any of them come out supporting her finish (other than her husband)? And if some or all of her crew were in on cheating they should also be similarly outed.
good point. its one thing to look the other way and/or stay silent- its another to put your own reputation on the line and defend.
Though, silence does say a lot. Who was her crew? Does she thank them anywhere? Seems like
http://endurancebuzz.com/2014/08/08/2014-badwater-135-results-and-reflections-from-our-tribe/Melody, Daniel, Kevin and Steve --- no last names. We know about Steve... who are these other folks?
friends? wrote:
BW Crew? wrote:It would be interesting to hear from some of her crew at BW - have any of them come out supporting her finish (other than her husband)? And if some or all of her crew were in on cheating they should also be similarly outed.
good point. its one thing to look the other way and/or stay silent- its another to put your own reputation on the line and defend.
Though, silence does say a lot. Who was her crew? Does she thank them anywhere? Seems like
http://endurancebuzz.com/2014/08/08/2014-badwater-135-results-and-reflections-from-our-tribe/Melody, Daniel, Kevin and Steve --- no last names. We know about Steve... who are these other folks?
See
www.iranmarathons.com/3_30_2014.xlsxfor a potentially relevant race result.
ok, thanks! So, if you're right (all those names are pretty common first names) her crew is
Melody Cherry F 53 3:23:00 (half marathon)
Daniel Santos-Costa M 41 3:29:16 (full)
Kevin Brosi M 58 6:07:00
ok, thanks! So, if you're right (all those names are pretty common first names) her crew is
Melody Cherry F 53 3:23:00 (half marathon)
Daniel Santos-Costa M 41 3:29:16 (full)
Kevin Brosi M 58 6:07:00 (full)
and of course, the always fabulous S.H., SH, or Steve-o - her hubby, and LRC troller.
An interesting group to choose for a 135mi race.
Melody does have an athlinks profile, not a FM type though, and only has 2 results in ultrasignup. though she did do the 25K at Wild Hare 2013.
https://www.athlinks.com/Result/SearchClaim?SearchTerm=melody%20cherry
http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Melody&lname=Cherry
Daniel is a decent runner. Finished Grandmas in 3:34. And waht do you know - he did the FL Keys 100 in 24:04 and Wild Hare
https://www.athlinks.com/Result/SearchClaim?SearchTerm=Daniel%20Santos-Costa
http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Daniel&lname=Santos-Costa
Kevin has a couple of ultras but not much:
https://www.athlinks.com/Result/SearchClaim?searchTerm=Kevin%20Brosi
http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Kevin&lname=Brosi
https://www.athlinks.com/Result/SearchClaim?searchTerm=Kevin%20Brosi
I'm not claiming to know that those are the Melody, Daniel and Kevin in question, I'm just putting that race result out there as a starting point for investigation.
I looked a little bit further and can say that it does seem likely that the Melody and Kevin in that result know PM & SH well, but that's in no way proof that they crewed for PM at Badwater.
He brings it up because they are cocky and arrogant. They think we are all fools. They think they are invincible. They think they will never get caught. This behavior is classic to a compulsive liar and cheat.
hmmmm
Here are two of them
https://www.facebook.com/kevin.albert.568?fref=ts
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