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Mrr82 wrote:

logician wrote:

Mrr82 wrote:

logician wrote:

Mrr82 wrote:

logician wrote:
I'm glad Lawi won after leading for so much of the race.

It looks like we have found a chink in Cheserek's armor.

If the pace is fast, he is vulnerable, as we saw in the pac 12 1500.

Good run by both Lawi & Edward. Both under the old NCAA championship record.

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Um no, stop smoking crack. There is no chink is his armour, there is just a man named Lawi who when fit is better than ches. 3:33 and 13:00 last year is no joke.

No.

Edward beat him indoors off of a slow pace.

Edward has blown everyone away off of a slow pace.

When the pace is fast or moderate, he isn't able to kick as hard, and thus, he is more vulnerable.

Again stop smoking crack. Everyone knows Lalang wasn't at his best indoors. When Lalang is fit he can do huge things.

And are you captain obvious? When the pace is fast he can't kick as hard? Nobody can kick as hard when the pace is faster than slow. That's how running works....

Was everyone else not at their best either?

In slow races, Edward has destroyed everyone in a kick.

Off of a faster pace, he has not been as dominant.

Sorry this is hard for you to understand.

Nobody else was a 3:33/13:00 guy. Wake up. Sorry it's hard for you to understand that you're clueless. It was well known lawi was off his game indoors. Off a faster pace he has only lost to one guy, and was just as dominant leaving everyone other than Lawi in the dust. A fit lawi can kick with ches in a slow race too.

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logician wrote:

isisk wrote:

logician wrote:
Was everyone else not at their best either?

In slow races, Edward has destroyed everyone in a kick.

Off of a faster pace, he has not been as dominant.

Sorry this is hard for you to understand.

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You're a retard. He's not failing at understanding you. He's telling you that everyone has the same chink so it's dumb to even point it out. The faster you run, the slower your kick will be. If you run fast enough, you will not have a kick at all. Learn to read.

Some people have trouble kicking off of a fast pace.

Others do not.

Sorry this is hard for you to understand.

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Batshitdumur wrote:

I'm a 1:50 800 guy, when I go out in 65 I can kick really hard!!!. When I go out in 49 I struggle kicking as hard and seem to close really slowly.

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logician wrote:
I didn't say close to their PR, just fast.

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Shawn H wrote:
Usually, if two runners are evenly matched, the drafter has the advantage.

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J.R. wrote:

Shawn H wrote:
Usually, if two runners are evenly matched, the drafter has the advantage.

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I totally disagree with that.

My long time training partner had more speed than me. If I followed him, then he had the advantage unless he set too fast of a pace. The only way for me to have the advantage was to lead, and to run him out before we got to the finish.

The same is true for many others as well, and I think it is quite dumb that more people don't use this tactic.

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Shawn H wrote:
You have to admit that Lalang showed great strength in leading the entire race with Cheserek drafting the whole time. It's a lot of pressure to lead an entire 5K with your biggest competition sitting right behind you. Usually, if two runners are evenly matched, the drafter has the advantage. Great race by both, though.

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Trialswatcher wrote:
Some of this is the stupidest shit ever written on here.

Ches went deep two nights ago running 53.2 last 400

Runs 13:18.7x tonight and people are giving him shit?


Against a guy who has run almost 13:00? Who is at least two years older? No one seems to question LaLang's age?

Other than Rono who was 24/25/26 when he was kicking people asses and folks on here worship him, he has done pretty well as a 20 year old frosh.

and for the uninformed ,Ches often looked like that arms flapping when he was out of gas in HS or running 1:49.x

He could have easily laid back for second and he never gave in, off 13:20's pace. and you're right, I have become a fan, was not always.

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charles is here wrote:
Lots of Kenyans come over to run but why no Ethiopians? Imagine if Hagos Gebrhiwet was running 12:4x in the NCAA, he's only "20" right now. He'd make Ches look slow.

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logician wrote:

Batshitdumur wrote:

I'm a 1:50 800 guy, when I go out in 65 I can kick really hard!!!. When I go out in 49 I struggle kicking as hard and seem to close really slowly.

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See:

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logician wrote:
I didn't say close to their PR, just fast.

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your welcome

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Trialswatcher wrote:
Some of this is the stupidest shit ever written on here.

Ches went deep two nights ago running 53.2 last 400

Runs 13:18.7x tonight and people are giving him shit?

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Batshitdumur wrote:

logician wrote:

Batshitdumur wrote:

I'm a 1:50 800 guy, when I go out in 65 I can kick really hard!!!. When I go out in 49 I struggle kicking as hard and seem to close really slowly.

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See:

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logician wrote:
I didn't say close to their PR, just fast.

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your welcome

So when I go out in 65 I'm able to close faster than when I go out in 56...is this a chink in my armor? Are you really this batshit stupid to not understand how dumb this sounds? He can't kick as hard when the pace is faster.....wow......batshit dumbbbbbb.

"When the pace is fast or moderate, he isn't able to kick as hard, and thus, he is more vulnerable."

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logician wrote:

Batshitdumur wrote:

logician wrote:

Batshitdumur wrote:

I'm a 1:50 800 guy, when I go out in 65 I can kick really hard!!!. When I go out in 49 I struggle kicking as hard and seem to close really slowly.

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See:

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logician wrote:
I didn't say close to their PR, just fast.

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your welcome

So when I go out in 65 I'm able to close faster than when I go out in 56...is this a chink in my armor? Are you really this batshit stupid to not understand how dumb this sounds? He can't kick as hard when the pace is faster.....wow......batshit dumbbbbbb.

"When the pace is fast or moderate, he isn't able to kick as hard, and thus, he is more vulnerable."

First of all, I think you need to calm down and quit it with the insults.

Second of all, it is quite simple but for some reason you are not getting it. So I will attempt to explain it again.

Some people are better in slower races because they have faster 400m speed.

If you are racing someone that has better speed than you, and you are running at a pace that is relatively slow, and this person is with you at the end of the race, they will outkick you.

If you want to beat this person, you need to soften them up with a faster pace. This will reduce their kick.

I hope I've explained it simply enough now.

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J.R. wrote:

Shawn H wrote:
Usually, if two runners are evenly matched, the drafter has the advantage.

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I totally disagree with that.

My long time training partner had more speed than me. If I followed him, then he had the advantage unless he set too fast of a pace. The only way for me to have the advantage was to lead, and to run him out before we got to the finish.

The same is true for many others as well, and I think it is quite dumb that more people don't use this tactic.