Ashton Eaton 49.07 400m HURDLES - 2nd place at FBKG!!!

Mrr82 wrote:

How many elite hurdlers consistently break 48 period? Don't be stupid.

Do you even watch Track?

Over the hurdle wrote:

Do you even watch Track?

I believe Mike asked you to stop being stupid.

Over the hurdle wrote:

Eaton is a great athlete, but this is like running a 4:05 mile.

I'd be more impressed if he broke 1:55 in the 800.

You are way off, it is probably equal to a sub-4 mile.

Oh wait my bad, Christian Taylor isn't sponsored by Nike shouldn't have mentioned him possibly being better than Eaton (Nike).

Over the hurdle wrote:

Most elite 400hurdlers also with 10.3 speed break 48 consistently, 48.5 would be an off day, 49.0 would be a bad day.

Since the world lead is 48.57, sounds like the entire world has a series of off days.

Over the hurdle wrote:

Mrr82 wrote:

How many elite hurdlers consistently break 48 period? Don't be stupid.

Do you even watch Track?

50 hurdlers have ever broken 48

dingle wrote:

Over the hurdle wrote:

Do you even watch Track?

50 hurdlers have ever broken 48

Make that 41:

Hiya folks wrote:

Over the hurdle wrote:

3:54 mile, ha thats a good one I needed a laugh today.

Agreed, it's much closer to a 3:52 mile.

In actual facts, Eaton ran faster than Jeshua Anderson ran all last year. That time would have been #7 in the US, top 20 in the world last year, and I'd call that world class. And that's for a guy, like Christian Taylor in World Relays, competing totally outside his sport (Maybe he should try the 4X100).

Equivalent to 10.10, 45.12 and a bunch of other things that people posting here can't dream of running, including 3:35 and 3:52. And that's the problem certain people here have.

trackcoach wrote:

You are way off, it is probably equal to a sub-4 mile.

No, the IAAF tables are WAY off.

The IAAF tables seem to assume every event has equal participation which isn't true. NO one wants to run 400m hurdles, everyone wants to run 100m and the Mile.

This can skew conversions even more. So, a 49 400m hurdles looks more impressive on conversion tables than it really is by a significant margin, maybe the biggest disparity between any other running event. This makes the 400m hurdles an 'easy' event for someone like Eaton to pick up and be near the top.

Take Felix Sanchez, he has a 1:48.99. A 1:49.0 is worth 4:02.8 on the McMillan calculator. 800/mile conversions are probably the most common in track next to 100/200.

Felix Sanchez in 2012: 47.63/1:48.99~4:02.8

In what world is a 49.07 worth a sub 4? My 4:05 estimate may have been rich.

I like Trey Hardee's tweet to Eaton. Suggested he'll skip 48 and go directly to 47 seconds, and be US champ. Of course, Trey may have ulterior motive to puts Ashton down that path. 😀

You're way off bro. I feel like there's a load of people interested in just this kind of thing that are trying to relay this message to you.

wow Coach D, are you kidding? I usually respect your opinion but even you know a 49.07 is nothing like a 45.12 or (laugh) 10.10.

And 3:35/3:52 in one of the most contested events in the world is very respectable. But a 49.07 aint even close to that. Its not even same ballpark.

Like I said, Christian Taylor would be more interesting in the 400 hurdles than Eaton. And this is probably the worst season for 400 hurdles in a long time.

Edwin Moses ran 47.63 in 1976. That was 40 years ago. Whats a 47.63 from then worth today? The 400 hurdles record is weak, the event is weak, and its one of the weakest years in a long time.

Over the hurdle wrote:

Mrr82 wrote:

How many elite hurdlers consistently break 48 period? Don't be stupid.

Do you even watch Track?

Well let's see..world champion and fastest of the year last year has broken 48 twice in his life and only once last year at the world champs at his peak.

Tinsley who had a career year and finished 2nd at the world champs where he ran his fastest had only broken it twice that year prior and by .04 and .02.

The only other sub 48 guy last year did it once taking 3rd at the world champs.

As I said, how many elite hurdlers break 48 consistently? Only some of the best ever did it consistently. Bernshawn in his two best years did, in his fastest year he didn't break 48 until after this date however. The season is early.

Kevin young the fastest ever did, but again in his best season he didn't break 48 until June 21st.

Do you even watch track?

dingle wrote:

Over the hurdle wrote:

Most elite 400hurdlers also with 10.3 speed break 48 consistently, 48.5 would be an off day, 49.0 would be a bad day.

Since the world lead is 48.57, sounds like the entire world has a series of off days.

Must be because we don't watch track.

46.8 I believe is the Wr. Ashton ran 2.3 seconds slower. 2.3(4)=9.2, plus I added 2 seconds for it not being "equal depth" to the mile.

However, maybe I should indicate that this is more as 3:54 TALENT rather than 3:54 equivalent. Obviously less people are going to run 3:54 as it requires more training to reach your maximum potential than a sprint does. It's kind of like how a 10.00 is theoretically equal to 2:07:00 marathon but a 2:07:00 marathon takes much more training to do. So it's easier to max out your potential in a sprint, which is why more people achieve such high quality in sprints.

Over the hurdle wrote:

Take Felix Sanchez, he has a 1:48.99. A 1:49.0 is worth 4:02.8 on the McMillan calculator. 800/mile conversions are probably the most common in track next to 100/200.

Now you're clearly being stupid. Sanchez has a 44.80 400 which is run close to as much as the mile. This gives an equivalent mile time of 3:50. Sanchez is a 400h and to use is 800 time to give a mile equivalent is pure idiocy.

Jseven1 wrote:

I like Trey Hardee's tweet to Eaton. Suggested he'll skip 48 and go directly to 47 seconds, and be US champ. Of course, Trey may have ulterior motive to puts Ashton down that path. 😀

This is why I can't stand letsrun, lots of talk, little to no facts that back opinions or dissent, loads of ignorance, and most importantly a lack of respect for quality performances in individual events. Meet promoters would put Eaton in 400h only because he is Eaton. They would put him in the 800 if he wanted, 100m, or Pole Vault or Javelin, practically anything he wanted if he asked.

If Eaton runs under 48 that would be threadworthy. That would be a great time, amazing and more up to par with his ability. But until it happens...

Over the hurdle wrote:

This is why I can't stand letsrun, lots of talk, little to no facts that back opinions or dissent, loads of ignorance, and most importantly a lack of respect for quality performances in individual events. Meet promoters would put Eaton in 400h only because he is Eaton. They would put him in the 800 if he wanted, 100m, or Pole Vault or Javelin, practically anything he wanted if he asked.

If Eaton runs under 48 that would be threadworthy. That would be a great time, amazing and more up to par with his ability. But until it happens...

You're clearly being an idiot who fancies himself an expert. You assume that the only thing that is interesting would be for Eaton to run an elite time in one of his first times out just because he is fast and a good high hurdler. How many pure high hurdlers have run sub 48? 0. 400 hurdles has a large rhythm component that is different to high hurdles and the fact that Eaton ran 49 low shows that he has done a pretty good job adjusting after a few races.

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However, maybe I should indicate that this is more as 3:54 TALENT rather than 3:54 equivalent. Obviously less people are going to run 3:54 as it requires more training to reach your maximum potential than a sprint does. It's kind of like how a 10.00 is theoretically equal to 2:07:00 marathon but a 2:07:00 marathon takes much more training to do. So it's easier to max out your potential in a sprint, which is why more people achieve such high quality in sprints.

Lol. It does not take longer to reach your potential in the marathon compared to the 100m. You distance runners act like no one else works hard except yourselves.