Another girl here. i had to consistently run 60+ miles per week to break 20:00 so i have very little talent. was it worth it? Totally. i met some great people along the way and really enjoyed the challenge. But it's no crime to want to spend your time doing something other than running.
You have only been running for 3 years. It takes 10 years to maximize your talent in this sport if have the patience.
Run more miles and see where it takes you, but enjoy the ride.
[quote]discouraged wrote:
I may, however, have to put in more work than them, since these women, at least the ones I know who run 19s, either played college sports or ran track. They can run a 20:00 flat 5k on 15 miles a week because they trained for years prior. [quote]
Do you know how fast they ran in college and how they trained to do that?
You may be speculating.
Well, you might be surprised, some of them might look at you and your family and feel threatened/jealous.
You might also want to share your running goals (e.g. sub 20 5k) with your kids as an example of dedication/goal setting. Or...you might just want to maintain status quo, a mom that runs/exercises has a positive influence on whether her children will exercise,along with life balance etc.
I do not have self esteem issues. Stop hijacking me and go run your cross country meet you high school boy!
Grateful undead wrote:
Well, you might be surprised, some of them might look at you and your family and feel threatened/jealous.
You might also want to share your running goals (e.g. sub 20 5k) with your kids as an example of dedication/goal setting. Or...you might just want to maintain status quo, a mom that runs/exercises has a positive influence on whether her children will exercise,along with life balance etc.
My insecurities are deep rooted and unlikely to be abated by another woman's admiration/jealousy toward me. I can't help but compare myself to other faster women and feel envious of their talent. Sometimes my jealousy becomes all consuming, prompting me to exercise fanatically and crash diet in the vain hope of improving my race times. It's a sickness, really. I don't want my children, especially my daughter, to get enveloped in my illness. Although, she probably senses my extreme distrust of other women given that I can't seem to maintain close relationships with them.
Alright already, ya got me! It's getting tiresome now.
dkny64 wrote:
See below for one of my favorite results progressions from the NYC marathon archive. Yasuhiro also runs shorter races - he recently ran 4M in 24:54 at age 61 - but for years he was no faster than you are now.
1984 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M32 T365 NY United States USA 8943 7826 3367 4:32:02 10:22 4:32:02 46.6
1985 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M33 V318 NY United States USA 5663 5231 2252 3:49:36 8:45 3:49:36 55.2
1986 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M34 14267 NY United States USA 13021 11551 4892 4:20:19 9:56 4:20:19 48.7
1987 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M35 12980 NY United States USA 15403 13405 5401 4:33:49 10:27 4:33:49 46.3
1988 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M36 5923 NY United States USA 16482 14281 5614 4:36:56 10:34 4:36:56 45.7
1989 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M37 14434 NY United States USA 12309 11087 4545 3:59:25 9:08 3:59:25 52.9
1990 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M38 14173 NY United States JAP 17094 14670 5813 4:39:59 10:41 4:39:13 45.4
1991 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M39 14537 NY United States JAP 10098 9192 3949 3:53:50 8:55 3:51:35 54.7
1992 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M40 14909 NY United States JAP 9535 8825 2673 3:47:35 8:41 3:43:49 56.6
1993 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M41 12892 NY United States USA 5753 5261 1501 3:45:47 8:37 3:40:28 57.5
1994 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M42 13529 NY United States JAP 9811 8833 2809 3:57:47 9:04 3:50:31 55.0
1995 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M43 11296 NY United States JPN 7489 6829 2042 3:52:54 8:53 3:44:11 56.5
1996 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M44 11403 NY United States USA 7360 6554 1850 3:50:57 8:48 3:40:41 57.4
1997 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M45 13359 NY United States JPN 5023 4602 1301 3:39:50 8:23 3:28:32 60.8
1999 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M47 M844 NY United States JPN 2549 2377 262 3:24:09 3:23:53 45:55 1:38:10 2:33:29 7:46 3:10:30 66.5
2000 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M48 2938 TO Japan JPN 1856 1750 183 3:18:45 3:17:47 48:00 1:39:27 2:32:31 7:32 3:03:23 69.1
2001 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M49 2042 TO Japan JPN 1733 1539 143 3:21:53 3:21:25 47:44 1:40:20 2:33:53 7:41 3:05:19 68.4
2002 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M50 2040 NY United States USA 2382 2144 125 3:25:51 3:25:04 48:19 1:40:36 2:34:59 7:49 3:07:13 67.7
2003 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M51 6007 NY United States JPN 1306 1188 65 3:18:13 3:17:50 47:08 1:38:22 2:30:26 7:33 2:55:36 71.1
2004 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M52 2017 NY United States JPN 791 731 26 3:08:23 3:08:03 42:19 1:30:59 2:21:36 7:10 2:45:25 75.5
2005 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M53 3019 CPTC NY United States JPN 707 661 24 3:03:36 3:03:18 42:56 1:30:41 6:59 2:39:46 78.1
2006 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M54 1801 CPTC NY United States JPN 669 631 19 2:57:26 2:57:01 0:20:39 0:41:04 1:01:48 1:22:33 1:27:05 1:43:57 2:05:06 2:26:59 2:48:25 6:45 2:32:53 81.7
2007 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M55 1914 CPTC NY United States JPN 24970 18348 879 5:05:13 4:42:14 0:27:57 0:56:13 1:24:51 1:59:03 2:09:09 2:34:53 3:14:38 3:51:59 4:27:37 10:46 4:01:28 51.7
2008 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M56 468 CPTC NY United States JPN 717 661 4 2:57:08 2:56:48 0:20:27 0:40:36 1:01:21 6:44 2:29:51 83.3
2009 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M57 701 CPTC NY United States JPN 898 846 5 2:58:58 2:58:44 0:21:13 0:42:03 1:02:47 1:23:58 1:28:32 1:45:14 2:06:35 2:28:17 2:49:25 6:49 2:30:03 83.2
2010 YASUHIRO MAKOSHI M58 691 CPTC NY United States JPN 683 630 2 2:57:30 2:57:09 0:20:29 0:40:39 1:01:00 1:21:40 1:26:11 1:42:55 2:04:22 2:25:59 2:47:46 6:45 2:27:19 84.7
How did he become a sub-3 runner at age 54, after seemingly stagnating in his 40s? What kind of change did he make in his training? Do you have any idea?
I believe the big change for Yasuhiro was joining Central Park TC but I can't say I've ever asked him. Perhaps other folks on this board know more than I do.
dkny64 wrote:
. Perhaps other folks on this board know more than I do.
About French literature?
discouraged wrote:
dkny64 wrote:. Perhaps other folks on this board know more than I do.
About French literature?
LOL. My knowledge of French literature is in sad shape nowadays.
LOL. My knowledge of French literature is in sad shape nowadays.
Maybe you should do some French Lit sprints, speed read some Coles notes or wikipedia.
discouraged wrote:
I've been running for 3 years. I got a late start in my late 20s. I've improved every year but honestly I am still not fast. My race paces are 7-8 minute miles. I'm a female, but still. Most women in local races who win can run 6:30 miles. I do speed work, I've tried different plans. Everything I've tried has improved me, but basically I improved from 8:30 miles to 7:15 miles. Good improvement, still not fast. Do I just not have the talent?
I am literally stuck at the same times as OP.
I followed the advice of easy runs easy and my times were bull. For example I ran 36:25 10K, 1:20 half but only 2:59 in the marathon, probably because all my long runs were 8 minute miles. Another guy at my club ran 60-80 miles for a 3:20 marathon. For some of us its better to run less and hammer.
Eight year old thread back from the dead.
the older I get, the faster I was.
discouraged wrote:
Ha! my husband has been telling me to do weight training and squats. I haven't done any type of resistance training.
And 7-8 is my pace for a 5k and 10k. I've never done a marathon but I'm guessing if I did basic training (ie: 15-20 mile long runs) I could probably finish around 3:45.
I would suggest a mine to two mile warmup, then run repeats on the track. Either shoot for 45 second 200s, or 90 second 400s. You can do a jogging rest, or a standing rest, depending on your fitness level. I prefer the jogging rest. Shoot for doing the amount of reps that would cover at least your race distance. For a 10K, this might take quite a while.
Around 5th grade.
That's why I became a thrower. 😉
whoreallycares wrote:
Eight year old thread back from the dead.
I just saw that, lol
Distance running is one of those things where almost everyone can improve an enormous amount relative to where they start. It is not uncommon to turn your 5k pace into marathon pace within several years of improved training. Just add miles gradually, get in tempo runs, intervals, strides, and hill sprints, as well as progression runs and long runs, and by all means run with a more competitive group and you'll see major improvements as long as you stay healthy. It's not that some won't start off much better, others improve much faster, and still others easily attain a level you wouldn't dream of, but rather that everyone can get a lot better.