Article about Galen Rupp!

Dictionary.com translates amerikaneren as "penalties looming", obviously a reference to some sort of drugs ban.

I think they mean white American as opposed to African born American.

"Without Alberto would not be where I am today.... And he's curious about everything that is new and can be integrated into the training said Rupp, who reveals that Americans are using laser treatment to prevent damage."

This seems exactly like what the Russian were doing with Xenon gas, which was not specifically banned so therefore was okay to use. There was no reason for the Russians to advertise their use of the gas because doing so would result in their losing their edge over other countries.

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

faulty L. wrote:

So...soccer=running. Great logic.

Fine, look at the Olympic results. The European countries all punch far above their weight in the overall medal counts (but they think they are inferior in running and so give it little effort). In fact, Norway does better per capita than any other country. Check out the book Soccernomics. It goes through the numbers and it shows that in virtually every sport, participation #'s, tradition, and wealth determine the champions.

I'm a norwegian. We kinda suck at soccer. What is your point btw? Medals in any other sport does not relate to running or running genetics.

Running is a basic humans skill there has been evolutionary pressure on for hundreds of thousands of years. You can't say the same for table tennis or curling.

There are other someway comparable sports where certain groups are over/underrepresented. Like power lifting. This kind of strength is also something you are born with, and you can only train it to a certain extent. Do you think the lack of Ethiopians or Kalenjin tribe power-lifters is only due to the lack of power-lifting culture in East Africa?

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

By the way, Ethiopia is among the biggest underachievers in soccer by population, and Kenya is bad as well. Affluent countries with tradition (=a lot of international experience) dominate.

Soccer is a SKILL BASED sport. People with all kinds of body builds and skills can fit into the many roles of a soccer team.

Again, soccer or similar sports are irrelevant and not comparable in any way.

In running there is basically only one role to play: run fast.

If you can't, though luck..

goldfish wrote:

what language is that?

How stupid are you?

Norwegian.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Aftenposten wrote:

altitude tents are banned in Norway.

the world should follow Norway's example.

Why?

youareanidiot wrote:

All humans are genetically 99.9% similar. We learned this after the Human Genome Project. How much do you think you can get out of that 0.1%? Maybe something, but probably not the commonplace notion of races with special abilities.

There is only one active species of human: human. There are many different species of sharks.

A typical Kenyan runner is built differently than western males. They are not 100% the same, they are either better or worse suited for running. Not 100% the same. Choose one.

Ajax wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Racist piece.

No. No, it's not. It's racial, not racist, but you're probably in your mid-20s at the oldest so you've been raised to think that anything racial is therefore racist.

We've overcorrected the ship, people. It's not racist to observe traits among a people of a race and report objectively about it.

It's also not racist to root for somebody of your own race being competitive. I wish all distance and sprint finals looked like the Planeteers, but they don't.

You're correct.

You can get a lot of variation out of that 0.1%

It is down to Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP-pronouced "snip"). It means that a single change in the nucleotide sequence can produce significant changes.

An example would be a myostatin variant where an SNP can result in a high-proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibre, an intermediate distribution, or a high-proportion of slow-twitch.

It would be guaranteed that Usain Bolt would have the fast-twitch version and that a 2:03 marathon runner the slow-twitch. Runners such as Farah or Ovett that have a wide-range would almost certainly be the intermediate type.

Due to something called "Linkage Disequilibrium" we can often assume that if you get one SNP, you will get another that is relatively close on the genome.

For these reasons, one can have a good shot at estimating performance and distance potential for a thoroughbred racehorse by looking at little more than a handful of variants.

Lasers are banned if blood is manipulated to "prevent damage"From: http://www.usada.org/prohibited-list/athlete-guide/Prohibited MethodsM1. Manipulation of Blood and Blood ComponentsIntravenous laser therapy is prohibited. Ozone and/or ultraviolet light therapies which includes removal, treatment and manipulation of blood or blood components are prohibited.

"Without Alberto would not be where I am today.... And he's curious about everything that is new and can be integrated into the training said Rupp, who reveals that Americans are using laser treatment to prevent damage."

Barakus Obama wrote:

A typical Kenyan runner is built differently than western males. They are not 100% the same, they are either better or worse suited for running. Not 100% the same. Choose one.

you can clearly see it watching Rupp's stride rate versus ANY kenyan in the race. Rupp(or any white runner) has almost no hamstring extension or high butt kick, but EVERY kenyan does. The white runner has the knee lift but no powerful extension.. shorter stride, less power.

yyy wrote:

20 mill in Finland+Sweden+Norway.

Skiing is different as you need a stong upper body. East Africans can never become dominant in this event.

East Africans do have a genetic advantage in running.

Look at the IAAF lists

The only genetic advantage they have is no history of big cities and civilization. Nordic people have the same advantage, but have dropped out of the sport because they are fewer and have no financial incentive. A Norwegian can make more money working in a gas station than as a pro track athlete. Skiing brings both fame and fortune.

As for strong upper bodies, you're looking at Kenyans through the distorting lens of athletics. They are not all little skinny ectomorphs. Rugby is a much more popular sport there.

What they lack, as far as skiing goes, is snow.

yyy wrote:

Norwegian. Nothing to do with Jyllandsposten that ran the

comic strips.

Aftenposten is featuring GR before Bislett June 11.

He will disprove Ventoline's claim that he can run 12:40

No, he won't.

Think about what ventolin predicts. He does not predict Rupp will run 12:40. He predicts that Rupp is capable of 12:40 when the sun, moon, stars, tides, pollen, magnetic fields, and a bunch of other factors align.

The only way you could come remotely close to disproving a V3 claim is if Rupp gets a race on a cool, calm, day with even, consistent pacemaking to 4k in 10:08 +/- a couple seconds. If he fails to run near 12:40 from there...or is dropped, that is about as close as that.

I find it next to impossible that Rupp can run 12:40, or even lower 7:20s, let alone 7:20.00...but just because he doesn't run 12:40 doesn't really disprove what V3 is predicting regardless of how good or how absurd one thinks his calculator and assumptions are.

Convert Ed wrote:

Long Distance Running before a bunch of Africans and Ethiopians who are fighting for the gold, interspersed with some from Somalia, Uganda and Morocco.

Interesting. Ethiopia, Somalia, Uganda and Morocco are not considered African countries? What Somalian runners (besides mo farah) have been gold winners?