Emma Coburn talks about her Shanghai win - Says Jenny Simpson can break US 1500 record of 3:57.12

ventolin^3 wrote:

Caged wrote:Still think Genzebe is going to annihilate Aregawi all year? LOL!

only a fool judges whole season form on an opener, especially after her epic indoor season

she said she coudn't explain what happened to her in doha

front-running a 3k in 95F heat may have had something to do with it...

I didn't say one word about her Doha race (which was a PR, btw). I asked you a simple question. Can you understand English?

I said last year that Jenny Simpson could break the 1500m AR - she just needs to be in a race where she gets pulled to that time.

LetsRun.com wrote:

We had a nice chat with Coburn today

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/05/emma-coburn-talks-shanghai-win-american-records-training-jenny-simpson/

Best of luck to Jenny getting the 1500 AR, but I don't think it is is possible for an athlete you can't break 2 minutes in the 800, to run 3:57 flat. When Decker set the 1500 AR, she was in 1:57x 800m shape and 8:25 3k shape. - I just don't see it happening, in fact, I don't see Jenny coming with in a minute of that record. (I would love to be proven wrong.)

Comparatively, the U.S. 5k record is soft, a sub-4 1500 meter runner with some over distance capability, can take down that record any point. No disrespect to Molly or Shalane, but that record should be in the mid 14:30s.

Caged wrote:No, she won't, because she's not an moronic douche like you

clearly you are a total moron

economics 101 shoud tell even stoopidest of idiots that going from a pacer to world champion at 800 woud mean end of pacing duties unless someone pays an asking price many, many times her previous fee

Caged wrote:I didn't say one word about her Doha race (which was a PR, btw)

err...

then what on earth woud you base the swede's chances over 1500 against her ???

if it was her 3'55-flat indoors of a jog to 800 & solo last 700m than the swede woud have no chance

as for running a pb, only a fool calls 8'26+ a pb when she has already run 8'16+i again off a jog to 2k & solo long way out

there is no way in hell genze or anyone with more than 1/2 a brain is likely to call her 8'26 a "pb"

I asked you a simple question. Can you understand English?

i'm not conversant in "stoopid" so we have a communication problem

trackcoach wrote:Best of luck to Jenny getting the 1500 AR, but I don't think it is is possible for an athlete you can't break 2 minutes in the 800, to run 3:57 flat. When Decker set the 1500 AR, she was in 1:57x 800m shape and 8:25 3k shape. - I just don't see it happening, in fact, I don't see Jenny coming with in a minute of that record. (I would love to be proven wrong.)

Comparatively, the U.S. 5k record is soft, a sub-4 1500 meter runner with some over distance capability, can take down that record any point. No disrespect to Molly or Shalane, but that record should be in the mid 14:30s

great post !

i was going to post mary's stats but you beat me to it

she ran 3'57.13nr in '83 but in '85 went 1'56.90 !! & 8'25.83 !!

1'56.90 / 8'25.83 ->

2'30.0

3'55.3

4'14.3

5'23.5

she shouda smashd the 2k wr that year & probably woud still hold it as not raced much ever

if you doubt that 3'55 estimate, see this 3'57.24 from that peak year :

a solo run off a suicidal 61.94 !!!

at even pace from gun-to-tape & with wabbit to bell, that was easily a 3'55 & more likely a 3'54+

( remember, her 800 & 3k that year were unlikely perfect races, so we shoud ideally use faster than 1'56.90/8'25.83 for her 1500 estimate )

seriously, for jenny to be considered best domestic 1500er ever, she really needs to go

3'54+

I don't think Jenny can get it either. Like another poster said, a 2 flat runner can't get out in 2:05-2:06 for 800 and have enough left for a 45 second final 300 to nab the record.

_prolific poster wrote:

I don't think Jenny can get it either. Like another poster said, a 2 flat runner can't get out in 2:05-2:06 for 800 and have enough left for a 45 second final 300 to nab the record.

How does one know Jenny is "only" a 2 flat runner at this time if she ran that time mid-May last year?

Did she run any recent 800 meter runs?

She just may be a 1:59 flat or less runner right now.

It will happen in Europe set up paced race. Euro meet directors like Jenny and would love for her to run fast ! Emma is in the same boat , loved by the directors we will see that US record fall maybe a couple of times in the steeple.

trackcoach wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

We had a nice chat with Coburn today

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/05/emma-coburn-talks-shanghai-win-american-records-training-jenny-simpson/

Best of luck to Jenny getting the 1500 AR, but I don't think it is is possible for an athlete you can't break 2 minutes in the 800, to run 3:57 flat. When Decker set the 1500 AR, she was in 1:57x 800m shape and 8:25 3k shape. - I just don't see it happening, in fact, I don't see Jenny coming with in a minute of that record. (I would love to be proven wrong.)

Comparatively, the U.S. 5k record is soft, a sub-4 1500 meter runner with some over distance capability, can take down that record any point. No disrespect to Molly or Shalane, but that record should be in the mid 14:30s.

You don't think she'll come within a "minute" of that record?

Her 800 times are meaningless. She doesn't run it hardly ever. Be like claiming Rudisha can't break a WR because his 400 times are too slow. Nonsense. There are totally different races.

jenny ran pretty good in eugene

she probably has slightly faster than 1'59 speed currently ( only tenth or 2 though )

ventolin^3 wrote:

seriously, for jenny to be considered best domestic 1500er ever, she really needs to go

3'54+

Mary Decker was allegedly also a doper, though.

Thanks for posting the video of the Brussels/'85 1500. What a great field, and interesting race! Lynn Williams 4th place finish in 4:00.27 set the Canadian record, still standing, almost 30 years later!