"You want muscle on you. In the long term, being skinny is a negative." -Alberto Salazar

Cross-Fit Cory wrote: CrossFit-style sprints.

you'll see that Asbel Kiprop is jumping rope a la Rich Froning.

What? CrossFit invented sprints and jump ropes? What's a CrossFit-style sprint, anyway? How does that differ from a sprint?

btw, even the modern movement toward HIIT predates CrossFit by quite a bit.

I suppose now we should say that Rocky, Jack LaLanne, and Milo of Croton did CrossFit-style training.

MIC ITW wrote:

Total puff-piece from Runnersworld.

When you see the likes of Cain, Baxter, Hasay, Huddle, Flanagan, or any other elite female distance runner in person it's very clear that "being skinny" is mandatory. Muscle is needed, but not much at the speeds they run.

Um, ever heard of Erin Donohue?

despite popular x-fit belief, runners do drills/plyos and do core work and upper body work. They don't just "slog" miles.

Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

"Alberto Canova"

"Meb Farah"

"NYC Marathon"

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I see what you did there xfit guy. Well played...

SMJO wrote:

Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

Action speak louder than words.

While I am glad Alberto Canova is finally coming to senses, I still remember how his own Meb Farah fell without being impacted to the ground in the NYC Marathon in March (during the race and afterwards).

Hint: if you can't support yourself from falling down, you're not STRONG enough.

Meb Farah's spine however was still in one piece.

How many X-Fitters died doing XFit? How many runners died running?

Ok, I'm sold. I'm going xfit. Where do I start?

Southern boy wrote:

MIC ITW wrote:

Total puff-piece from Runnersworld.

When you see the likes of Cain, Baxter, Hasay, Huddle, Flanagan, or any other elite female distance runner in person it's very clear that "being skinny" is mandatory. Muscle is needed, but not much at the speeds they run.

Um, ever heard of Erin Donohue?

http://pvixc.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/4b23659f35b213b6d54dfceb30f4d905-getty-76505116rb046_u_s_track_and.jpg

Yeah, Erin is awesome. So is Nick Symmonds. There are always outliers. Spud Webb could dunk. So what.

FWIW, Erin's power/weight ratio was about 10% lower than the best in the world when she ran her PRs. Just sayin.

might be wejo wrote:

Uh oh, someone better tell this guy:

http://www.all-athletics.com/files/imagecache/photos_big/photos/Asbel%20Kiprop-2%20-%20Berlin%20WCH%20Day%203.jpg

yes, nice one.

of course the letsrun village idiot ventolin has already said that Kiprop needs to add AT LEAST 10lbs of muscle to run to his potential.

Southern boy wrote:

Um, ever heard of Erin Donohue?

http://pvixc.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/4b23659f35b213b6d54dfceb30f4d905-getty-76505116rb046_u_s_track_and.jpg

Um, are you sure that isn't Alan Webb with one of his hair-pieces?? Seriously, look closely.

( I am not trying to be mean, though I know I am being so, but....she should have received the "Caster test". I think there is a reason she was wearing regular shorts. Take a close look there also....)

You seem to want to lump all distance runners into one frame, saying they are all skinny.

There is difference between being "skinny" and being "lean".

Also, Milers are different from Marathon runners, thus much different builds.

I am with you on this one. Women will laugh at these skinny-fat people.

MIC ITW wrote:

Yeah, Erin is awesome. So is Nick Symmonds. There are always outliers. Spud Webb could dunk. So what.

FWIW, Erin's power/weight ratio was about 10% lower than the best in the world when she ran her PRs. Just sayin.

If you say it's mandatory to be skinny and there exist examples of not-super skinny elite runners, then you've been proven wrong. Sure it's helpful to keep weight in mind, but some muscle mass plainly isn't a killer.

Also, what do you mean by that "just saying" sentence? How did you come up with any kind of meaningful power/weight ratio without knowing her power?

Southern Boy wrote:

Also, what do you mean by that "just saying" sentence? How did you come up with any kind of meaningful power/weight ratio without knowing her power?

I performed science.

MIC ITW wrote:

Southern Boy wrote:

Also, what do you mean by that "just saying" sentence? How did you come up with any kind of meaningful power/weight ratio without knowing her power?

I performed science.

What science was that?

another idiot wrote:

might be wejo wrote:

Uh oh, someone better tell this guy:

http://www.all-athletics.com/files/imagecache/photos_big/photos/Asbel%20Kiprop-2%20-%20Berlin%20WCH%20Day%203.jpg

He doesn't look muscular because he is in the air. If his leg muscles had been contracting as his foot hit the ground he would have looked like a beast.

I'm just jealous that these hairless Kenyans can paste their hip numbers to their thighs.

This always looks cool and I want to do it, but if I do I will have to tear out hundreds of hairs after the race.

hairman wrote:

another idiot wrote:

He doesn't look muscular because he is in the air. If his leg muscles had been contracting as his foot hit the ground he would have looked like a beast.

I'm just jealous that these hairless Kenyans can paste their hip numbers to their thighs.

This always looks cool and I want to do it, but if I do I will have to tear out hundreds of hairs after the race.

Have you considered shaving your legs?

Southern boy wrote:

MIC ITW wrote:

Total puff-piece from Runnersworld.

When you see the likes of Cain, Baxter, Hasay, Huddle, Flanagan, or any other elite female distance runner in person it's very clear that "being skinny" is mandatory. Muscle is needed, but not much at the speeds they run.

Um, ever heard of Erin Donohue?

http://pvixc.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/4b23659f35b213b6d54dfceb30f4d905-getty-76505116rb046_u_s_track_and.jpg

And who is that in the picture with Erin that is faster and still running professionally.

Erin was awesome and I always rooted for her. She was fast for her size but her size was her limiting factor. Just like it has been for lots of other runners.

not a twig wrote:

when it comes down to it, being a skinnyfat/twig runner is a pathetic existence, and most women will laugh at you

If you're going to be skinny at least get real abs to go with noticeable chest and bicep muscles taking into account the fact that you probably won't be in the Olympic 10k final anytime soon

not all of us here are looking to look "aesthetically pleasing". most of the guys here are serious and dont care if we look twiggy or frail. we want to run fast and win races. thats what we are going for. not to "pick up girls" with running

dude, really? wrote:

How many X-Fitters died doing XFit? How many runners died running?

Better question: how many x-fitters have developed Rhabdomyolysis from x-fit? How many runners have developed Rhabdomyolysis from running?