2004 Marathon Trials

Grandma's or Chicago

Try Wineglass or Steamtown here in NY or PA, both very fast marathons with $$ to be won. Last year a masters runner won $$ at Wineglass with a 2:28 finish, who dropped out of Twin-Cities a week before. Think about it over by there.

Trials:

Jason Mayeroff (sub2:20)VS Weldon Johnson(sub2:20)

Trivia:

Who beats who?

Please do the DETAIL coverage for us, american press people!!!

karangasem.

wejo will DESTROY him!!!

Chicago '03. Doubt I'll make it in time, probably end up in 2:24 range, but I'm busting my ass already to make my best effort at getting under the standard. If I get close but miss it maybe a 2nd try at Houston or something.

Kramer, I gotta call bullsh*t on your statement regarding guys debuting in Birmingham. What americans out there (who haven't raced 26.2) have the potential in the marathon that Meb and Dan Browne have? Abdi comes to mind, but please don't try to tell me that he's racing in Birmingham.

You are correct, however, on the course design and the fast guys running it. Last I heard, Kyle Baker, Scott Strand, and Jeff Campbell where all shooting for the Oly A standard in Feb. I haven't heard if Josh is running yet, but I'm sure he could stroll to a sub 212 on that course.

If they do not change the course from what it was last year, then I do not think you will see any fast times put up. It is a very tough course. There is a huge hill some where around mile 10 or so, and it is very very steep. Plus there are parts of the course where you're running on cobble stones, which make the footing kind of tough. I will be surprised if someone runs a real good time. This is just not the course to do that on. I hope they change the course from what it was last year so that we can see America's best put up some fast times going head to head for a spot on the Olympic team.

I believe the winning time from last year was put up by a Kenyan in the 2:20 range. It may have been a little faster I'm not sure. I think there was also a Russian up there with him too.

RunfortheSON wrote:

If they do not change the course from what it was last year, then I do not think you will see any fast times put up. It is a very tough course. There is a huge hill some where around mile 10 or so, and it is very very steep. Plus there are parts of the course where you're running on cobble stones, which make the footing kind of tough. I will be surprised if someone runs a real good time. This is just not the course to do that on. I hope they change the course from what it was last year so that we can see America's best put up some fast times going head to head for a spot on the Olympic team.

It is a brand new course. Designed specifically to be fast.

Chicago w/ backup plan of Tucson.

Great! Glad to hear it. It will be nice to have the Olympic trials down here in the south with a good fast course. Thanks for the info.

I hope we, the public, get to run the same course the day before.

Just remember, it's ONLY a brand new course if you are running in the Marathon Trials on Saturday.

The regular old Mercedes Marathon will be on the exact same course as last year on Sunday.

I bet the field will be rather weak at the US Champs in Feb. Not sure how many folks want to trash themselves...especially with the outdoor season, and summer road race season right around the corner. Sure, a few of the true "marathoners" will show up, but I doubt any of the big names will be there. Who knows, maybe KK will run it as a workout before London and still win handily! : - )

The women's in April looks to be the same way...a faster course, but I am unsure how many big names will be there. Say a 2:35 wins it???

Should be fun though. St Louis was a tad slow getting the info out, but from what I have seen, they have done a VERY good job organizing the event. Should be a blast!!!

Kramer

Verran??????? You must be drunk. Baker and Johnson are both former roommates with Clint and owned him every day. How could Clint have passed Chad in the improvement department? Are the Hansons better coaches than Salazar? Kyle already beat Clint at Chicago and that was Kyle's debut. Quit sucking off anyone wearing a Hansons uniform and get back to reality.

Kramer is on Crack wrote:

Are the Hansons better coaches than Salazar?

Yeah, pretty much.

If Hansons are so much better than Alberto then why isn't Nike knocking down their door? Why did Chad Johnson leave Hansons to go run for Alberto?

Men's 1 Mile Run

Fieldhouse: 3:59.01 Brian Diemer (Michigan) 1983 School: 3:55.33 Kevin Sullivan 1995

# NCAA Auto4:01.80 NCAA Prov: 4:06.00

Finals - Results - Saturday 01/20/01

PLACE ATHLETE NAME SCHOOL TIME HT

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1 Verran, Clint Hansons Running Shop 4:06.60 1

2 Baker, Kyle Unat East Lansing 4:07.18 2

3 Coleman, Russ Hansons Running Shop 4:10.58 1

4 Hurley, Jeremy Hansons Running Shop 4:13.02 1

5 Brennan, Nathan Unat Toronto 4:13.27 2

6 Kirk, NeilEastern Michigan U 4:15.11 1

7 Johnson, Chad Hansons Running Shop 4:16.11 2

8 Brinker, Ritchie Hansons Running Sh 4:16.26 2

9 Schell, Steve Hansons Running Shop 4:17.57 1

10 Turner, Brian UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN4:17.62 1

I think it's cool that three old hansons roommates will be racing in Birmningham. However, to say that Baker and Johnson owned Verran everyday cannot be 100% true. Verran (not know for his blazing speed) owned these two in the mile this particular day as well as winning the 3000 later on in 8:02. See the link below.

Wow. I'm surprised more hasn't been made of Philemon, Chad, and Nick Rodgers' upcoming debuts. I would say that Chad has the best chance out of the three. Philemon hasn't shown much improvement since becoming a US and I think 26.2 might be a little out of Nick's range.

As for the debate: Hanson's vs. Alberto in the coaching department.....that's a no-brainer. Hansons have proven they're the best at developing distance runners. No question.

Maybe Nike did and maybe Hansons turned Nike down for any number of reasons, including honoring the commitment they have made to their program and the runners in their program. Just because the almighty Nike knocks doesn't mean that everyone or anyone will answer in the affirmative. Maybe Johnson thought he had out-grown the Hansons program, maybe he thought the Nike gig was too good of an opportunity to pass up, regardless of the coach, maybe he was unaware of Salazar's coaching credentials outside of his reputation as a runner, maybe he was just chasing $$$, maybe he was just taking a chance with an unrealistic expectations for high dividends. Bottom line, results are what make the coach's reputation. So far I like Hansons results 10x better than Salazar's results.

Kramer is on Crack wrote:

If Hansons are so much better than Alberto then why isn't Nike knocking down their door? Why did Chad Johnson leave Hansons to go run for Alberto?

anyone coming to austin's motorola marathon? i think they put up a 2:11 last year and if you go back and check out one of the years 98-99 a shit load of guys ran well. as for the post of steamboat and whatever the other one is-- those suck! good luck hitting a qualifier there. -(Birmingham)-- i talked to eddy a few races back and he told me that his intentions are to be added in the 2003 US race--so there's another talent added to their list.

If Alberto is so much better than Hansons then why isn't Hansons knocking down their door. Why hasn't Richie Brinker left Hansons to go run for Alberto?