RYAN HALL 2:17 Boston.

Need to know wrote:

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, RYAN HALL?

Ahhhhh, where do you think? The same place as always. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Heb 13:8

hitmonlee wrote:

The guy is a 6 1 white american who marathons for a living. The fact that he even pulled off a 2 17 this race is impressive get real.

He's not over 5'11". He is very awkwardly shaped, which is normal for white guys but awful for athletes.

I posted my concerns about Ryan's diet after watching him shop at the Safeway on Butler Ave in Flagstaff many times. No one listened. Now maybe you can see? I think he may also have money issues, he was buying cheap single ply store brand TP. Poor diet plus stress from money issues equals poor running.

hitmonlee wrote:

The guy is a 6 1 white american who marathons for a living. The fact that he even pulled off a 2 17 this race is impressive get real.

he is 5'10

Wørd wrote:

Who the fuck is Ryan Hall?

He's an American marathoner who ran the Boston Marathon today at a pace that was more than a minute/mile faster than my best.

I wish him well.

lease wrote:

Wørd wrote:

Who the fuck is Ryan Hall?

He's an American marathoner who ran the Boston Marathon today at a pace that was more than a minute/mile faster than my best.

I wish him well.

so what

not about you

Ryan Hall got 20th in the Boston Marathon today. So what place did all you haters get? Please share with us.

lease wrote:

Wørd wrote:

Who the fuck is Ryan Hall?

He's an American marathoner who ran the Boston Marathon today at a pace that was more than a minute/mile faster than my best.

He's an American marathoner who ran the Boston marathon today 1 min faster than the top woman.

Cormac wrote:

Ryan Hall got 20th in the Boston Marathon today. So what place did all you haters get? Please share with us.

typical letsrun idiot homer.

two terrible types of posters always take over threads like this:

1. THE OVERLY INSULTED FAN

(noun)

atypical quote: "WHAT?!? so and so McWhiteyRunner got 20th in the Boston Marathon?!? because I'm dissapointed a native born McWhitey didn't place higher, I'm going to take out my anger with ridiculous insults. maybe i'll offer some poorly thought-out coaching advice, or deliver a poignant "funny" insult that a few other anonymous cowards will find chuckle-worthy. not only am i a fair weather fan, i ENJOY putting down extremely talented and accomplished runners when give it their all and still have a poor performance."

2. THE SHORTSIGHTEDLY SENTIMENTAL DEFENDER

(noun)

atypical quote: "but so and so McWhiteyRunner has previously run 3:39 for the mile. what's your PR? until you run faster than so and so, you can't judge his performance! and then that other so and such McWhiteyRunner ran sub 60 for the half marathon. until i see you breaking American Records, you're not fit to comment!"

the combination of these two lower forms of humanity team up to destroy any meaningful discussion. not only is any constructive criticism of so and so mcwhitey completely shouted out by the insults of poster type #1, but the defense is maligned and undercut by the gushy nonsense of poster type #2, who seems to think the cardiovascular strength you were born with somewhow is the only thing that can qualify you to make legitimate comments about the sport or a particular mcwhitey.

He also is paid big $ to run one min faster that the top woman. Hasn't Jeptoo had a few kids? Maybe he should take time off and get pregnant,

he was just jogging by the end - 25k-30k and 35k-40k were each around 17:30 - that is probably his easy day pace.

not sure what that means, but he threw in the towel pretty early - soon after his 65 minute half.

yourmom.com wrote:

I'm glad he actually finished despite blowing up.

I'm glad he finished too, even if it was a horrific time. Given what happened last year, finishing has more meaning than just a time and a placing.

Good post, except I don't believe you know what the word "atypical" means.

Hall has failed for the last time and is going to HELL

Was Alan webb running Boston today?

Might have been a pretty good race for him. What place did he get in the only-white-guys-count division? That's all we care about around here anyway.

+1

I'm curious if those people ever criticize their favorite MLB team, NFL team, or any other sport where people are paid to perform. These guys are professionals and not above scrutiny and/or criticism.

That doesn't mean you're not going to defend "your" guy, but you can do it in a logical way and also recognize when the criticism is coming from a complete troll.

Ryan ran terrible. I don't care if you're his biggest fan or not. By any measurement, today was a failure, other than picking up the appearance fee check. At some point, by simple deduction, any reasonable fan can see that Ryan coaching himself isn't going to produce the results he wishes for.

In the end, winning isn't overly important to him, but running allows him to keep sponsors, keep his foundation running, and lets him spread "the good word" by having a forum. I'm sure winning is on his radar, but at the end of the day, his faith and his side projects have more meaning than committing 100% to training. He's not willing to bleed for it, or maybe better stated, he doesn't believe in bleeding for it.

And that's fine, I'm just over hearing the Ryan Hall record spin. Listen to that Meb interview after the NYC half, that sounds like a guy who's 100% dedicated running Boston to win. I listen to Ryan talk and it's always more to do with the foundation and faith than it does with the desire to win.

I'm cool with that, but then lets call it what it is. He's a great guy who's heart is in a different place than where it needs to be to win marathon majors. I'm sure he's ok with that.

Agreed. Something about Hall in particular evokes a lot of anger from American running fans when he fails to perform. It was the same with Alan Webb before him and it is the same with Galen Rupp now. I'm guessing that it is because he is/was the best white American runner in his distance in his day. Nobody cared when Meb ran 2:20+. Nobody cares when Ritz does not run well. But when Hall has a bad race, people want to destroy the guy.

I think the bigger issue is that Hall has run too many marathons. Hall was a near 4:00 miler in high school and NCAA 5000 champion in college. He was a US XC champion in 2004 or 2005 and world XC team member. But for the past like 8 years he has run nothing but marathons, and tough ones (NY/Boston) at that. I think he sold himself out, ran too many marathons, destroyed his body, and now is done. He is still arguably the best American marathon ever though. This performance does not change that.