friend of a friend of a friend wrote:
when/where has carnes run 28's? fastest i've seen was 29:30, and even that was suspect (same course, mid-29's, otherwise rarely, if ever, breaking 30min).
youre right I meant to write 29s (was on my phone), the point holds that here is no drug in the known universe that can take a 33 something 10k guy to the 29s...
you don't know when he started taking drugs, what he could have run without drugs, which drugs he took, what his dosages were, what he could have run without them, etc...
The sad part about all this is none of this matters, hes completely lost credibility in the sport and it doesn't matter if he got a 20 second, a 0 second, or never even PRed from the drugs...when you knowingly and intentionally cheat in this sport, every performance you've ever had in the past or will have in the future cannot be trusted and is invalidated
That doesn't reduce the idiocy if making statements like "without the drugs hes a XX:XX guys...especially when XX:XX is 3 minutes slower than what he actually ran"
On the other guy where it was fairly clearly a mistake...that's different