Rupp over 26.2 miles

2:04 - same potential as Ryan Hall.

End of thread.

Musings wrote:

So, completely hypothetical musing for a friday, but would Rupp fair better over his 26.2 mile debut than Farah managed last weekend?

With a shorter, less loping stride, and a lower knee lift, surely his style would transition to the roads over that sort of distance in a more conducive, less impacting way?

No. Why didn't it help Rupp beat Farah at 13.1? Surely an efficient stride should matter here too? And does Hall run with a shuffle? no. The stride analysis is irrelevant mostly. They are both 1500-10k guys, with Farah just better at each and every distance.

Rupp hasn't beat Farah any anything yet, so I don't it any different in the the 'thon, the OR in the Full Mary.

Oh, and AlSal has basically said Rupp has more pure speed than Farah. So if Farah is "too fast", or "too fast twitch" to excel at the 42,164.8128 meter race, so is Rupp.

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

Oh, and AlSal has basically said Rupp has more pure speed than Farah. So if Farah is "too fast", or "too fast twitch" to excel at the 42,164.8128 meter race, so is Rupp.

How does he figure? There is no way Rupp could run 3:28. Has Rupp ever outkicked or held off Farah?

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

42,164.8128 meter

42,195.0000 meter

details matter wrote:

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

42,164.8128 meter

42,195.0000 meter

42,237.195 meters. do you know nothing? you gotta add 0.1% for certification.

moron

The only time they raced over 1/2, Rupp fell.

He did not beat Farah that day, but not necessarily impossible that he could have.

If Mo was also in the field, he'd comfortably run with him and get dropped at the end but still finish in a solid time.

Without Mo in the field he'd be all over the place and probably run 2:13.

Maybe its rupps thing

he sprinted away from the 2 bekeles in the last 200 of the olympic final

this site forgets that

rupp is so selfcouncious that he raises one finger after beating the bekeles in a sprint he quickly raises a second finger so we dont rag on him

we and rupp are are missing how good he is

The other guy! wrote:

2:04 - same potential as Ryan Hall.

End of thread.

ummm, no. Rupp doesn't run through pain or when he feels funny. The WALL will destroy him.

Pure speed as in 100 meter speed. Not speed over 1500 or over the last lap.

The other guy! wrote:

2:04 - same potential as Ryan Hall.

End of thread.

Except Hall never has and never will run a 2:04 marathon.

I do believe that Rupp could be faster than Hall, if he trained for it properly, and faster than Farah. I think Rupp could run 2:05 on a legitimate course, potentially, but not with his current type of training.

Les wrote:

Pure speed as in 100 meter speed. Not speed over 1500 or over the last lap.

... Which indicates jack shit.

I heard Rupp can hold his breath longer than Farah underwater. Rupp should therefore debut in sub 2:06 no problem.

Jddfgfkt wrote:

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

Oh, and AlSal has basically said Rupp has more pure speed than Farah. So if Farah is "too fast", or "too fast twitch" to excel at the 42,164.8128 meter race, so is Rupp.

How does he figure? There is no way Rupp could run 3:28. Has Rupp ever outkicked or held off Farah?

They did an all-out "flying 100" - 10.9 for Galen, 11.3 for Mo. That might be what he's referring to.

Jddfgfkt wrote:

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

Oh, and AlSal has basically said Rupp has more pure speed than Farah. So if Farah is "too fast", or "too fast twitch" to excel at the 42,164.8128 meter race, so is Rupp.

How does he figure? There is no way Rupp could run 3:28. Has Rupp ever outkicked or held off Farah?

In 2012 Galen finished up a long hard workout with a 2 step running start all out 100m in 11.03. I don't know Mo's 100m speed, but it sure as hell isn't 11.03. Shortly after the 100m all out Galen did a cool down and hopped on a private jet for London where he took Silver. Do some research, you'll eventually stumble on the article somewhere.

And think about it, Mo probably has AT BEST 11.5 100m speed, that is why he makes a long drive for the finish if someone like Galen has 11.03 speed. Now the scary thing, is what if Galen develops aerobically enough that he is as strong as Farah? If Farah had Galen's 100m speed he'd probably run 3:25 1500m and close championship 5k/10k races in 50high/51low instead of 52high/53low

Annnnd who got gold?

That's all very impressive, but based on those numbers and their actual finishes it's all pointless speculation. It's a hand timed running start 100m dash. I'll gladly eat all of these words if Rupp ever betters Farah's 1500m PR.

The 1500 is not a sprint.

It could happen considering Rupp is 3 years younger than Farah. See where Rupp is when he's 30 and compare to Farah. He's already ahead of Farah - silver medal at 26.

I maintain that Rupp will not do a Marathon until 2018. He's totally committed to track through the next round of WC and the 2016 Olympics. Only in the next off year will he make the jump to marathon.

Farah's experience this year probably only serves to enforce that point of view in Rupp. Letsrun.com nailed it on the head that Farah couldn't go from the blazing speed runner he displayed last year to a winning marathon runner in only months.

My guess is that Rupp will compete in the 2017 WCs on the track. Then he will retire from the track for good, take a long break, and compete in a marathon only in the fall of 2018.