I got downvoted in reddit for giving non-hobbyjogger advice.

Jefe in the CO wrote:

I get nasty looks all the time when I respond to someone discussing their most recent race by saying; Times and places not names and faces please.

When everyone starts to jump on me for being rude I'll just add by saying, Hey, I've devoted a lot of time to the sport and would like details. That usually gets them off my back and stimulates more meaningful conversations about running/racing.

Unless the person also included their sex, their age, how long they have been running, whether or not they were racing or doing a training run, etc. knowing the race time is pointless.

found looking for your failure wrote:

"First-time marathoner wins Paris Marathon! Wow! (self.running)

submitted 1 day ago by slacksonslacks

This morning, first-time marathoner Kenenisa "Kenny" Bekele ran his first marathon ever, and ended up winning the Paris marathon in 2:05:03. "Kenny" comes from the African country of Ethiopia. This was his very first marathon- hopefully he had fun and will try to do one again some time Congratulations, Kenny!"

Indeed, congrats Kenny!

Obvious satire...

Asking "what was your time" is a dick move because if she's proud of her time she'll offer it. Otherwise "how was your race" is more than sufficient.

post about running on letsrun, not reddit

You guys are nothing compared to Forthewolfx. He is the most famous redditor of all time. And he runs xc. No I a not him and no you can't know my handle.

xenonscreams wrote:

Asking "what was your time" is a dick move because if she's proud of her time she'll offer it. Otherwise "how was your race" is more than sufficient.

hmmm...No. If you're talking to a serious runner about a race, it's weird if they don't tell you the time. Hell, I'd ask anyone how they did. It shows interest, and isn't a dick move unless you act snobby when they tell you about a 24:00 5k. Nobody's ever take offense.

BTW, reddit users also frequently complain about posters on letsrun.

Best reddit poster is http://www.reddit.com/user/DTRunsThis

We'll have to agree to disagree.

xenonscreams wrote:

Girl Power! wrote:

Wow, so showing an interest in a friend's accomplishments is a "dick move"? If I had been REALLY interested in how my friend did in the race I could have looked it up on the internet!

Asking "what was your time" is a dick move because if she's proud of her time she'll offer it. Otherwise "how was your race" is more than sufficient.

But then you're the type who says they can run (whatever your times are, they're pretty good by over-all standards), then goes on to say Oh, but I'm not fast. Yeah you are. You're not Joanie, but you're damn fast in the over-all scheme of things.

IMO asking for someone's time in a race if they don't voluntarily offer it is akin to asking for someone's score on a test. Even if they're like "I did so well on the test!"

What are you supposed to say then?

'I ran a 10k yesterday'

'Oh yeah, was it on a track or on the road?'

'It was a 10k you can't run 10k on a track the track is only 400m'

'Oh cool. Did you have fun?'

'No it was hard but I was happy when I finished.'

'Oh yeah. How long did it take you?'

It's very very very organic for even the hobbiest of hobby joggers. It's hard to *NOT* bring it up. Prime example:

'Wow a marathon! How long is that!?'

'26 miles'

'... I don't know miles how long does that take?'

'Uh, almost 3 hours'

'Wow I can't even drive that far lolololol'

xenonscreams wrote:

Asking "what was your time" is a dick move because if she's proud of her time she'll offer it. Otherwise "how was your race" is more than sufficient.

Couldn't disagree more. People who volunteer times, especially if they are faster than an average hobby jogger, come off as smug a-holes. Unless you are running professional times, you're a dick if you post splits on a public forum. Bragging about your 16 minute 5k just makes you sound like a scumbag unless someone asked. Usually "how was your race" is a question of politeness; they don't really care about details, just whether it was good or bad.

Also, the people who talk about times the most are usually the ones who aren't actually delivering the goods either. So there really is no reason to volunteer times unless you're a) elite, or b) talking to a training partner/coach.

Zev wrote:Everyone needs to start somewhere, but this is ridiculous.

/end rant

Why do y'all care? This board's obsession with slow hobby joggers borders on creepy. If they're behind you, why do yo care what they do?

Yes, much of running/hobbyjogging is Attention Seeking Behavior. People have cleverly determined they can enter a running event, join a club and socialize a lot, not train hard, not try hard, and get showered with praise and attention and likes for finishing, especially in a sassy outfit or tutu. And woe to anyone who suggests they are any less deserving of respect than the guy and gal who won. All for not much $.

This is a great decision for most people. Who doesn't enjoy attention? These joggers end up happier, and perhaps marginally healthier. They meet people, travel, have a lot of fun, and ratchet their self-esteem up a bit.

As a group I wish they were less defensive. And I wish Gallowalkers didn't think it was ok to start up front with the fast people, right down the middle, then stop without warning because their thing beeped regardless of who's behind them. But overall I can't fault them for making smart choices.

How about:

"I ran a 5K yesterday."

"Sweet, how was it?"

"It was really good, I was going for 18:30 but I ran 18:20."

"Awesome, congrats!"

Or:

"I ran a 10K yesterday."

"How'd you do?"

"Not so hot. I had a rough race but I know I'll bounce back soon."

By asking "how did you do" you're giving the person the option to talk about their time. Asking for their time directly is about as invasive is asking about weight or test scores or income IMO.

With an obvious exception if you're their coach.

Keeper wrote:

Why do y'all care? This board's obsession with slow hobby joggers borders on creepy. If they're behind you, why do yo care what they do?

+1 Amen. Secure people wouldn't care so much.

xenonscreams wrote:

How about:

"I ran a 5K yesterday."

"Sweet, how was it?"

"It was really good, I was going for 18:30 but I ran 18:20."

"Awesome, congrats!"

Or:

"I ran a 10K yesterday."

"How'd you do?"

"Not so hot. I had a rough race but I know I'll bounce back soon."

By asking "how did you do" you're giving the person the option to talk about their time. Asking for their time directly is about as invasive is asking about weight or test scores or income IMO.

Is it even more invasive to look their times up online without them knowing? Is that tatamount to internet rape? If they know they're entering race and they see the clocks all over the place, they have to have some idea that someone may just ask them what their time was. Maybe that can be the new fad, events without times. Just show up and run and not worry about the time. Or just show up and not run and don't sweat the sweating. Or just pay up and not show up, we'll deliver the race (oops, event) shirt to your door.

xenonscreams wrote:

IMO asking for someone's time in a race if they don't voluntarily offer it is akin to asking for someone's score on a test. Even if they're like "I did so well on the test!" it's a dick move to be like "oh yeah? What was your score?" Why do you want to know? Because it makes you happy that you did better? Or if someone posts about how happy they are they lost twenty pounds, it's a dick move to be like "so what do you weigh now?" Unless they actually offer that information.

So yeah, asking for times comes across as snobby. I always want to do it because I love that information but if people don't offer it and I really want to know, I'll just look it up myself. There's the internet and stuff.

This is is stalking.,

The first question I ask anyone is what is your 5K PR, and then judge accordingly from there.