I can't speak for Texas but here in Louisiana the heat will soon make fast 3200s pretty rare. The best shot of having fast distance races is hoping for an evening meet around the same time a cool front comes through.
I can't speak for Texas but here in Louisiana the heat will soon make fast 3200s pretty rare. The best shot of having fast distance races is hoping for an evening meet around the same time a cool front comes through.
GOLDSTANDARD wrote:
Even beat Reina who ran 9:05 his sophomore year, but a big difference in the 1600 as Reuben ran 4:13
4:14 vs. 4:13 is a big difference to you?
That is the same difference between a 9:03 and 9:05 3200?
1 second per 4 laps?
dl;kfhriun wrote:
As the season progresses in Texas, along with the heat, do distance runners typically make significant improvements by the state championship or is it just too hot? Does that make any difference if they are running meets at night?
Yeah, it gets a bit harder. The next two fastest 3200s we will probably see are Texas Relays (Saturday) and then the state meet in May. Here are the entries for Texas Relays:
http://tx.milesplit.com/meets/157117/attachment/287853. I'd say Blunt will probably win the 3200 by quite a bit since Dalquist isn't entered.
Oooh whoa haven't seen that before!!!!
They get so much better!! We better watch out!!!
Yeah keoll, I give her a couple weeks before she's duking it out with Alexa Efraimson and Mary Cain.
I actually know carter from middle school, although he is a grade above me. He ran a 5 flat 1600 in 7th grade and in 8th went 4:49 and 7:32 for the 1600/2400. Both were run with huge leads. He's a pretty hard worker who I know wants to run D1 at one of the big running school like UCLA or Oregon.
TX T&F Observer wrote:
9:03 and 4:14 at the 50th Annual Jesuit-Sheaner Relays, a huge early season outdoor meet in TX.
http://tx.milesplit.com/meets/158459/results/288364/rawCarter Blunt, sophomore from TX, this kid is legit. Also ran a 14:57 track 5K last week, in which he also finished 2nd behind Dalquist, who ran 14:48. Ran 9:26 and 4:21 as a frosh. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Craig Lutz or Colby Lowe even ran such a fast 3200 as sophomores.
How many times have we seen these young phenoms and by the time they're HS SRs, they're not even running anymore. So although the times are impressive, I'm not impressed yet. If he's still around as a college SR and winning NCAA championships, then I'll be impressed.
knows carter wrote:
I actually know carter from middle school, although he is a grade above me. He ran a 5 flat 1600 in 7th grade and in 8th went 4:49 and 7:32 for the 1600/2400. Both were run with huge leads. He's a pretty hard worker who I know wants to run D1 at one of the big running school like UCLA or Oregon.
Haha I actually know Carter too, but I just wanted to post as objectively as possible. I believe he also ran like 2:08 for 800 in middle school, although I couldn't find it in the middle school results.
http://www.friscoisd.org/ly/departments/athletics/track/documents/2011districttrackmeet-middleschool.pdfhttp://www.friscoisd.org/ly/departments/athletics/track/documents/districtqualifierheritage2011.pdfhttp://www.friscoisd.org/ly/departments/athletics/track/documents/resultsof2012msdistrictmeet.pdfhttp://www.friscoisd.org/ly/departments/athletics/track/documents/tfmm3results2col_006.pdfhttp://www.friscoisd.org/ly/departments/athletics/track/documents/tfmm3results2col.pdfKeepin it Real wrote:
How many times have we seen these young phenoms and by the time they're HS SRs, they're not even running anymore. So although the times are impressive, I'm not impressed yet. If he's still around as a college SR and winning NCAA championships, then I'll be impressed.
Lots of times, but it still is far more likely for phenoms like these to produce great results later in life then those who do not run nearly as fast. Winning an NCAA championship is a very rare event (under your definition you would not be impressed with Chris Derricks accomplishments in college no matter what he ran as a frosh/soph in HS) and even rarer when you account for foreign talent. The odds may still be stacked against him but I'd much rather take a bet on his future success then some random 9:30 guy and if you understand statistics you would too.
[quote]Typical LR Poster wrote:
obvious doper
No, if he ran consistently in the 9:40-9:50 range his first three years of high school and then dropped a double like this it may have some questioning the performance. There is a difference and he has been at a high level throughout his young career. Seems like a great talent.
I ran a couple races at Sheaner yesterday and Carter was warming up for the 3200 when I finished. A couple of my friends and I know about him since he's so good and we watched his warmup.. He literally sat there for around an hour and barely did any warm up. He would jog a couple laps every 15 minutes or so but besides that nothing else. He fell asleep while sitting down. Dalquist was the same, he just sat with the Keller kids and talked about their brackets. Definitely legit talents
remember talk of burnout for hausers as well as culpepper in high school and they made Olympic team with the second Hauser just missing out
Stats don't mean sh*t. Being able to lay rubber down when it counts is all that matters.
TX T&F Observer wrote:
9:03 and 4:14 at the 50th Annual Jesuit-Sheaner Relays, a huge early season outdoor meet in TX.
http://tx.milesplit.com/meets/158459/results/288364/rawCarter Blunt, sophomore from TX, this kid is legit. Also ran a 14:57 track 5K last week, in which he also finished 2nd behind Dalquist, who ran 14:48. Ran 9:26 and 4:21 as a frosh. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Craig Lutz or Colby Lowe even ran such a fast 3200 as sophomores.
Craig Lutz ran 9:17 as a freshman and 9:03.9 as a sophomore, both at Texas Relays.
Oh man. It says Blunt's seed time was 9:34 though... and he ran 9:03?! What the heck? I know seed times don't mean that much but aren't they at least supposed to be reasonably close to what you expect the athlete to run??
cbenson4 wrote:
TX T&F Observer wrote:9:03 and 4:14 at the 50th Annual Jesuit-Sheaner Relays, a huge early season outdoor meet in TX.
http://tx.milesplit.com/meets/158459/results/288364/rawCarter Blunt, sophomore from TX, this kid is legit. Also ran a 14:57 track 5K last week, in which he also finished 2nd behind Dalquist, who ran 14:48. Ran 9:26 and 4:21 as a frosh. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Craig Lutz or Colby Lowe even ran such a fast 3200 as sophomores.
Craig Lutz ran 9:17 as a freshman and 9:03.9 as a sophomore, both at Texas Relays.
Oh man. It says Blunt's seed time was 9:34 though... and he ran 9:03?! What the heck? I know seed times don't mean that much but aren't they at least supposed to be reasonably close to what you expect the athlete to run??
Carter ran 9:19.93 at the Coppell Invitational on March 1st. That was his previous PR. There was probably just a mistake when making the entries. Still a 16 second PR though! And just FYI, Bernie Montoya went from a 9:23 PR to 8:47 PR as a junior, so it is possible haha.
Talked to Carter wrote:
I ran a couple races at Sheaner yesterday and Carter was warming up for the 3200 when I finished. A couple of my friends and I know about him since he's so good and we watched his warmup.. He literally sat there for around an hour and barely did any warm up. He would jog a couple laps every 15 minutes or so but besides that nothing else. He fell asleep while sitting down. Dalquist was the same, he just sat with the Keller kids and talked about their brackets. Definitely legit talents
So for like all day you were staring at these two guys and mentally recording everything they did? Pretty creepy.
To me, Dalquist is a pretty hard worker. Even though, I know that he is always talking about his bracket on twitter. I follow him on twitter. Unlike, rival Southlake Carroll, Dalquist does not follow Paavo. I don't know, but to me Carter only has talent. Dalquist is a hard worker and is going to University of Arkansas. I think he could do some pretty big things for Arkansas when he is a junior there.
Do you even know Carter? You're from Houston, hours away from DFW. He's one of the hardest workers I know. The fact that Carter rarely gets on Twitter shows that he is a very focused and hardworking person.
newname wrote:
4:14 vs. 4:13 is a big difference to you?
That is the same difference between a 9:03 and 9:05 3200?
1 second per 4 laps?
heh my bad, I thought I read 4:24
I don't think anyone pointed this out yet but I think he's a junior
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.