Russia has invaded Ukraine. If you were the US President how do you respond?

Tadpole wrote:

We'd be 100 times better off if Reagan or even Romney were president. They are perceived as much stronger leaders than Obama will ever be. And no that does't mean we'd be going to war. It simply means when you're playing a game of chess with world powers you need your opponents to respect and fear you. If not your position is already weakened and the threat of war is far greater.

hahahahaha, you actually said Romney is considered a strong leader. I can't think of a less strong leader. Leaders have to lead, thats the one thing Romeny can never do because he changes sides/opinions anytime someone tells him to.

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

Speaking as a Democrat, a huge part of the problem worldwide is that no one takes Obama seriously as a world leader. He has shown zero leadership on any international conflict and has waffled on the current ones the US is involved in. OK so he got bin Laden, great, and then?

Hmmm...for 2013 alone there was China, Iran, North Korea and Asia.

come on son wrote:

Tadpole wrote:

We'd be 100 times better off if Reagan or even Romney were president. They are perceived as much stronger leaders than Obama will ever be. And no that does't mean we'd be going to war. It simply means when you're playing a game of chess with world powers you need your opponents to respect and fear you. If not your position is already weakened and the threat of war is far greater.

hahahahaha, you actually said Romney is considered a strong leader. I can't think of a less strong leader. Leaders have to lead, thats the one thing Romeny can never do because he changes sides/opinions anytime someone tells him to.

Hey stupid, I mean mistaken identity, I mean fukface. Learn to read. I said;

....They are perceived as much stronger leaders than Obama will ever be.

And that's a true statement because your BOY Obama is thought of worldwide as the ultimate puzzy. And the world is right.

C2p0 wrote:

Randy Oldman wrote:

What about when he killed Osama Bin-Laden?

Don't you remember? He was in the war room with Biden and Hillary monitoring every bit of action. When Benghazi happened he stayed in bed.

He wasn't reading about goats?

Tadpole wrote:

Obama is thought of worldwide as the ultimate puzzy. And the world is right.

False.

Middle East trade East Eur wrote:

If I was Obama I would propose releasing the Middle East if Russia releases Crimea, and allows Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Hungary, Baltic States, etc. to join the EU non-exclusively.

Hopefully Mr Obama has better foreign policy advisers. Poland, Hungary and the Baltic states have been EU members for 10 (ten!) years... Belarus is for all purposes a dictatorship with no interest in the EU, and the current conflict in Ukraine has actually a lot to do with that country's planned EU accession.

a bit late to the party? wrote:

Middle East trade East Eur wrote:

If I was Obama I would propose releasing the Middle East if Russia releases Crimea, and allows Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Hungary, Baltic States, etc. to join the EU non-exclusively.

Hopefully Mr Obama has better foreign policy advisers. Poland, Hungary and the Baltic states have been EU members for 10 (ten!) years... Belarus is for all purposes a dictatorship with no interest in the EU, and the current conflict in Ukraine has actually a lot to do with that country's planned EU accession.

Very good. Some surprises as to countries that are not yet members.

another average american wrote:

Speaking from a place of relative ignorance ... but I would do my best to get Georgia into NATO and sanction the heck out of Russia.

anyone who thinks having ukraine or georgia in nato would be a helpful thing is clearly not paying attention. nato is a common defense pact. russia currently has troops on the ground in both countries, against the wishes of the local government (well depending on who you think the legitimate government is in ukraine).

so what would you have nato do? engage in military action as the pact requires in georgia (or ukraine if that's the country that would join nato)?

it's completely ridiculous, and nearly everyone mocked john mccain for making this suggestion back in 2008. well everyone who wasn't acting as a partisan spokesperson.

there are no good options now, and there were no good options in 2008. it will be amusing to watch republicans who defended bush in 2008 label obama weak now. and vice versa, though i think this will happen to a much lesser extent.

I would attack them with solar powered helicopters and shit.

I would take the opportunity to arrest AIPAC and the rest of the leaders of the Israel Lobby

Randy Oldman wrote:

K5 wrote:

No - Obama is the clueless Neville Chamberlain

So can you explain the Bush policy in Chechnya.

The Fake K5 can't explain how he survived childhood

K5 wrote:

Randy Oldman wrote:

So can you explain the Bush policy in Chechnya.

The Fake K5 can't explain how he survived childhood

That's ironic coming from someone whose parents had no kids that lived.

That last post was from the fake Randy Oldman.

Randy Oldman wrote:

K5 wrote:

The Fake K5 can't explain how he survived childhood

That's ironic coming from someone whose parents had no kids that lived.

How creative. How ingenious.

C2p0 wrote:

R2D3 wrote:

America would lose a war with Russia.

How'd Russia do against Afghanistan?

With 150,000 soldiers on foreign soil.

Randy Oldman wrote:

That last post was from the fake Randy Oldman.

No, it wasn't.

The only thing we can do here is isolate Russia and make it pay billions for this. Sanctions, kicked out of g8, do not deal with russki businesses etc. Putin understands money. If all the billionaire Russians start makin calls to the kremlin telling Putin what's what...suddenly this Ukrainian adventure becomes a short episode

Agip wrote:

The only thing we can do here is isolate Russia and make it pay billions for this. Sanctions, kicked out of g8, do not deal with russki businesses etc. Putin understands money. If all the billionaire Russians start makin calls to the kremlin telling Putin what's what...suddenly this Ukrainian adventure becomes a short episode

This. It sounds like much of Crimea WANTS to be part of Russia, not Ukraine. No need for us to piss $$ away trying to stop that from happening.

This one would be tough to have any effect on Russia. When they went into South Ossetia in Georgia, Bush I in 1991-92 and Bush II in 2004 and 2008 didn't do anything about it. For us to threaten war, right on Russia's border, risking nuclear war and making a very difficult land war for us to win without full effort, would be odd and akin to Russia declaring war against the United States for re-taking part of Mexico (maybe Texas, back in the day). It's their sphere of influence, as regrettable as this is. But Putin knows the meaning of a power vacuum and total force dominance, as they have in Ukraine.