wtfunny wrote:
wejo wrote:I disagree. This thread is about the process. We can not divinely know the truth. Since this thread has a fairly specific claim and it has been denied I may take it down at some point, but for now it stays. The easy thing would be to take it down.
Should we never have allowed the thread? And just known it was false from the beginning. Or taken it down when Centro tweeted? or waited for Ricky Simms response? Just act like the thread never happened? Then people would say we were trying to cover up the thread being wrong.
Threads about Lagat apparently are fair game for some of you but not Centro. What about Makhloufhi? We get blasted for being defenders of Paula Radcliffe by some and then blasted by others for even letting people ponder if she was dirty. I should go find some of the emails we got on Lance blasting us for allowing discussion. Yes, it would be a lot easier if I had a crystal ball and could tell what was true or not.
Athletes get paid a lot of money for the scrutiny they are under.
Our process does not always lead to the perfect result but it is consistent.
Are you really saying if Centro tested positive and had lied in his statement today this thread should never have been up? You must fall that no doping threads should be allowed. That would be consistent.
You're smarter than that, so don't play games. A discussion about an athlete is one thing. A discussion about doping is another. A discussion about doping in athletics is another. A discussion about a particular athlete doping is another. Assertions that athlete xyz has been busted and tested positive is entirely different from ANY of those things.
We can all discuss forever whether el G doped. And everyone has their opinions, etc. But asserting that he (or Centro) tested positive, and saying all the info is about to be made public is a very different thing altogether. IMO, this should be banned unless someone puts forward something to back that up.
In this thread, after 2 days, and an absurd # of posts, has ANYONE provided any support for the assertion? Not support for whether Al Sal is dirty, or ideas why they think Centro may dope .. support for the assertion he's actually been busted.
And don't make a ridiculous comment like you or your brother did about having honest discussions about doping and then make an unsupported vague and virtually anonymous claim that you heard offline conversations about this situation recently, before this thread .. show some of that honesty you're talking about, and say what you heard, where you heard it, and what you did to follow it up. Doing what you did is about as DIShonest as it gets. If you're not willing to disclose details like that, all you're doing is gossip mongering.
You guys like to call yourselves journalists, and you wave that banner over your site frequently. What kind of journalistic integrity do you hide behind with completely unsubstantiated rumors without a single source of verification? You wanna break a story? Go ahead, find something that verifies your story, and run with it. Otherwise, retract it, and remove it.
See the Denver Post for an example.
It's ridiculously unfair to Centrowitz to leave this online. I don't say that as a fan of Centro, or the sport, but as someone who knows how long this kind of stuff sticks around the net. Content is scraped, repasted, reposted, and on and on .. and years from now, even if you remove it from LRC tomorrow, you'll see stuff from this thread around the net.
You wanna have a discussion about whether Matthew Centrowitz is doping, go ahead and start one. State why you think he is, or isn't and let the conversation roll. But gossipy bs like this thread stating categorically that he's been busted is absolutely unfair.