Why Would Galen Be Better Than Ritz at the Marathon?

Is somebody saying he will be better? Last time I checked we hadn't gotten past the question of when and if Rupp would move up to the marathon.

I love galen rupp wrote:

Galen has better speed and still cannot run faster than Ritz at 5000m. Ritz could have run faster than his 27:22 pb, as it was in a championship meet. There is no reason to expect that Galen will be better at the marathon than Ritz.

Wilson Kipsang has only run 27:32 on the track and has no 5k mark. Track times don't mean squat. Rupp will probably be better at the marathon than Ritz mainly because Ritz has been dogged by fueling/cramping issues in the marathon and has not been able to train consistently with all of his injuries. Ritz has not and may never realize his full potential in the marathon. Otherwise, it would be a toss up between the two.

I love galen rupp wrote:

The Dingo wrote:

I know you're trolling, but, Ritz could never have run 26:48. So, Ritz has better speed (faster 5k) and Rupp has better endurance (faster 10k!). Obviously Rupp will be better at the marathon!!!

The day Ritz ran 12:56 he could have broken 27 minutes.

And the day Rupp ran 26:48, or the day he got Silver, or a whole boat load of other days, Rupp could have broken 12:56.

Ritz has run like a dozen of them and have had cramping/fuel issues in like 10 of them. The marathon isn't his eventNow who know if Rupp is going to have the same problems...

Precious Roy wrote:

Wilson Kipsang has only run 27:32 on the track and has no 5k mark. Track times don't mean squat. Rupp will probably be better at the marathon than Ritz mainly because Ritz has been dogged by fueling/cramping issues in the marathon and has not been able to train consistently with all of his injuries. Ritz has not and may never realize his full potential in the marathon. Otherwise, it would be a toss up between the two.

Because rupp has the NOPest dope. That good oregon juice.

Why should Rupp care about the marathon? He has a cool track career underway.

Well His mentor is multiple times marathon champion. His advise and training methods will fast track Rupp.

he's better and less injury prone

but ritz has more killer instinct then most

ritz will pull the trigger

For the love of god, you guys need to stop saying TUEs and thyroid in the same breath. You don't need a TUE to use thyroid hormone. You have never needed a TUE to use thyroid hormone. Repeating "TUEs" as if you're in on some secret just makes you look like an idiot.

Good points all. The anti-Rupp trolls are back at work, of course. Me, I am not a Rupp fan boy, but a fan of great runners. Rupp is one. Ritz is one. Maybe Rupp strikes many as a nerd of sorts. I only like him more for that. We long distance folks are not typically bodybuilders or football stars, after all. I admire them both, and wish them only the best. And yes, am a fan of both of them, superb runners and competitors that they are. (Speaking of Ritz, if you watch his great 5k is is off the back of the pack in the early laps, seemingly outclassed, yet reeling in Bekele near the end. It's like he started with low expectations that allowed him to pace perfectly. The announcers only noticed his run near the end).

reed wrote:

ritz ran sub-13 ONCE. his 2nd best race was 13:09 in 2013.

rupp has run within a couple seconds of 13:00 multiple times and obviously that 13:01 indoors this year.

rupp has run 30 SECONDS faster than ritz over 10k. nobody has come within 10 seconds of rupp's 10k AR.

rupp has run 60:30 in his only half marathon, in NYC, with a fall. ritz has run 4+ halves, with a best of 60 flat.

i'm not even a rupp fan-boy, i just think there's no evidence saying that rupp won't be as good as dathan at the marathon. i'm not saying he 100% will do better, but there's no way you can argue that he can't.

The Dingo wrote:

I love galen rupp wrote:

The day Ritz ran 12:56 he could have broken 27 minutes.

And the day Rupp ran 26:48, or the day he got Silver, or a whole boat load of other days, Rupp could have broken 12:56.

No, Rupp has run the 5000m many times and he has not been able to run faster, but Ritz ran his pb in a championship race, not a made for personal bests set up like Brussels, which is where Rupp ran his 26:48.

yep. I still maintain that he will not run a marathon until at least 2017. And probably not until 2018

Horst Girth wrote:

Why should Rupp care about the marathon? He has a cool track career underway.

He's a better runner than Ritz in all other areas.

We can deal in hypotheticals or we can deal in facts.

Ritz is 30+ seconds slower than Rupp in the 10k

Rupp is 2 seconds slower than Ritz in the 5k

Ritz WAS probably capable of 26:50-27:00 at some point in his life.

Rupp IS probably capable of 12:50-12:55 within the next six months.

I love galen rupp wrote:

. . . , but Ritz ran his pb in a championship race, not a made for personal bests set up like Brussels, which is where Rupp ran his 26:48.

No

His 10k.

Rupp is capable of a better marathon because he can stay healthy for several seasons straight. Ritz is probably physically capable of sub-2:06 if he could just stay healthy for a couple years straight, but he can't, so it's less likely that he'll hit his potential. The marathon, more than anything else, really seems to take a few years of consistency, to fully peak out. Rupp never really loses training time, so I could see him competing at the highest level, while Ritz never will.

I love galen rupp wrote:

Galen has better speed and still cannot run faster than Ritz at 5000m. Ritz could have run faster than his 27:22 pb, as it was in a championship meet. There is no reason to expect that Galen will be better at the marathon than Ritz.

He won't be. To do well in the Marathon, you have to be tough. That is why reason the Africans dominate. You have to be able to endure a high level of pain for a extended time. Rupp is a great runner but he is not tough and will never be a great marathoner.

I love galen rupp wrote:

No, Rupp has run the 5000m many times and he has not been able to run faster, but Ritz ran his pb in a championship race, not a made for personal bests set up like Brussels, which is where Rupp ran his 26:48.

1st) You certainly don't love rupp, but set out to neg-troll on him.

2nd) You must not have seen any of the various videos of Rupp working out with Ritz (and Mo and others). I'm a long time fan of Ritz, but Rupp is clearly on another level.

3rd) I hope you are new to this doubt (but highly skeptical that you are not) or else I think you are suffering from a disorder that doesn't allow you to see that you sound just like the handful of Brats who claimed Rupp couldn't ever/wouldn't ever do about 15 other things that he has already done.

4th) Rupp could have run 12:56 indoors this season, he ran 13:01 after being on 13:10 pace late in the race, putting almost 20 seconds on Levins in less than a mile. Think on that. Levins is at minimum at 13:05-13:10 runner this year in a diamond league outdoor.