Posted last many months ago. Took my 15 yr old tennis player son to Munich (positive overall experience). He is 10 days out from bilateral surgeries.
He had a rough first day or two after surgery in Munich w/the expected pain in the lower ab area. Has been walking fairly well the past few days and tried a light 5-10 minute jog this morning. Went well, said he had to weave a bit to feel pain on both sides (lower ab). Also hit light half-court tennis. Felt no pain. Dr. Mu. thought he would be able to play tennis by 10 days (consistent w/her gonzo recommendations and predictions). We're taking things a bit more slowly.
Dr. Mu's patients or anyone: Dr. Mu says you can't undo her work, and you should push thru pain or you will slow your recovery. Depends how far you're out from surgery and every case is different, but her pain thing is hard to explain to a 15 yr old. Healthy and necessary to feel SOME pain (break up surgical scar tissue), but how do you diffentiate between BENEFICIAL pain and pain that is saying STOP? My take: don't go overboard and your body will tell you the difference. (?)
Some excellent material and great people on this board. Speaking of great people, Dr. J/shoelessjoe, who was so helpful to us: hope you're on your way to gliding like Federer at Wimbledon. Hope all is well.
Posted last many months ago. Took my 15 yr old tennis player son to Munich (positive overall experience). He is 10 days out from bilateral surgeries.
I had unsuccessful laparoscopic mesh repair almost a year ago now. Since then, my groin is no better and I've developed hip and back problems
Recently I had a MRI and a hip specialist has diagnosed a labral tear, he would like me to have hip arthroscopy.
Has anyone here had this procedure? Did it cure your SH?
I didn't have a MRI before my SH surgery, so don't know if I already had the labral tear. If I go ahead with the arthroscopy will it do anything for my SH...
Would I be better off going to Germany?
For FlipDilli(?). I'm also in NZ, mail me if you'd like some info
I am scheduled to see Dr. Brunt in St. Louis next month (August). I saw that he operated on you and I am curious how your recovery has gone now that it has been 6 months.
How are you feeling now after your surgery w/ Dr. Brunt?
from what i read and saw,i think dr. muschaweck is running a Moneymaking Muncih Hernia Shop. they examined me this spring. i had pain on one side. she said the other side showed problmes. I know injury can develope on other side but i thinkshe just wanted teh $. move men thorugh like cattle and take $. don"t ever hear her turning guys away. from what she said she was going to do to me sounded like a regular hernia repair. good luck.
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please see my post two posts above. can anyone explain or defend dr. muschaweck and her methods?
I was injured at work over a year ago and eventually had an MRI performed, the results showed a probable sports hernia. I was sent to just about every form of dr. imaginable and everyone of them had me drop my drawers and cough. Even with the MRI results, these guys could not get it into their heads that just because it is called a "hernia" that it is not actually a hernia. I just kept getting told to take pills and go to physical therapy. I'm quite sure that it being a workman's comp injury did not help any.
Finally I saw a work comp dr. that said I needed to go out of town to see Dr. William Meyers...I thought I was getting somewhere, but my employer said there was no way that could be approved and I would have to see someone locally. I ended up seeing a general surgeon that I believe to be very competent, but did not have a lot of experience with this type of injury. He said he believed filling in any gap I had with mesh (laproscopically) and some sort of round metal pieces would reinforce the inguinal tear. He also felt that the rather severe pain that I had in my groin would most likely be alleviated by the aforementioned procedure. He did admit that there was a chance that the groin pain might not go away with this surgery and I might need a separate surgery (someone else would have to do it) to take care of that, I believe he was referring to an adductor release.
Well, it has been about 7 weeks now since the surgery and it is feeling better overall, but definitely not pain free. The closest way I can describe it is that it hurts like it did before, just not quite as severe. Sudden movements do not hurt as bad, but it is still an issue. Running....forget about it. I can lightly trot and deal with the pain for a little while, but if I try to pick up the pace, it flat out hurts. My groin area is the biggest issue while running, it feels like the muscles in my groin are shorter than they used to be....very, very tight. And for days after I try this, the whole groin area (injured side) feels severely bruised. If I rest and do nothing for a few days, most of the pain goes away.
One more thing...Now I have injury side testicular pain that I didn't really have before the surgery. It's not unbearable, but not comfortable either. The best way I can describe it is that it feels tender and loose down there. When I dry off with a towel, I have to be careful or the shaking around hurts...the same way with climbing down stairs and trying to run. I had three incisions made, but he did not go down to that area. Is this common? Is it possible a nerve was irritated that is making my testicle hurt? At 7 weeks post-op shouldn't I expect to be a little further along by now over all? If this mesh does not work out and I can get in to see Meyers, will reversing the mesh procedure be a big issue?
I appreciate any input you guys have. This website provides more patient information for sports hernias than any other place on the net that I have found.
I have read 2 of your posts and I have to say I have had a very similar experience. I am 29, play soccer in a somewhat competitive league. I went to Dr. Decter in NJ, who has a lot of experience with pro soccer players, who turned me on to Dr. Muschaweck and I saw her when she was there a month or so later in 2007. I had sports hernia surgery May 2007 on my right side with Dr. Muschaweck in Germany. Everything had been great from right after the surgery until recently. I played indooor and outdoor soccer over the past year at 100%. I slowly developed what I thought was a groin strain on my left side because it was not initially in the lower abdominal region. Recently, in a game, I felt like it tore a bit and now the symptoms are almost identical to the last time. I also have the start of a repeat hernia on my right side which greatly concerns me as well. I spoke with Dr. M recently by phone and she said she would be in San Francisco in October and NY in December. Apparently I just missed her as she was here a few weeks ago in the NY area where I am. In any event, I don't think I can wait that long and am seriously considering another trip to Munich to get this fixed as soon as I can so I can return to playing. My email is [email protected] if you want to talk further but I am curious to hear your thoughts on this as well given the striking similarities in our experiences. My latest symptoms started roughly 1 year after my surgery.
i had surgery on the left side only a year ago with dr. muschaweck in munich. played pain-free for a year. now, i have groin and lower ab pain on my right side that seems to get worse each time i play sports. my guess is i have SH on the right side now.
however, what is really concerning is that the pain is back on the left side too, both in the groin and lower ab. it's actually more acute on the left side at times. i can deal with SH on the right side - as i understand it, it is common for SH to develop on both sides eventually. but the thought of reoccurence on the left side is very scary.
i realize that the pain on the left side could be nerve irritation from the damage on the right side. i very much hope that's what it is.
question for those who have developed SH on both sides at different times: what were your symptoms the second time around? was the pain localized to one side, or was it on both sides?
any thoughts much appreciated.
I think we met in Dr. Decter's office last year while seeing Dr. M. I had my surgery a year ago in Germany but now have one on the other side as well as a recurrence on my initial side. See my post to Osaru who seems to have had a similar experience which describes my last year in more detail. I know you have been over there a few times with Dr. M and so was wondering what your experiences have been with these recurring on the same side again. My email is [email protected] if you have time to discuss as I am considering returning to Germany in the coming weeks to have this fixed if I can get time with Dr. M.
Ive been looking at this site for over a year now, and its helped me alot with my understanding of sports hernias! Since i wont be coming back to this site i fought id finally make a post.
I am a hockey player and first got my injury 2 years ago and havnt been able to play since. I saw a physian for six months who first introduced to the sports hernia injury. To cut a long story short, i went through the same process as most of you; exrays and mris that didnt show anything, and cortisone injections that didnt really help with the pain. I would have had the op if it werent for a sports injury specialist wanting me to have another mri first, feeling that he'd be able to find something as he knew what to look for. Obviously i felt that it would just cause yet more delays! Anyway, he found that i infact had a hip impingment. The symptons are identicle to a sports hernia, but the surgery is thankfully more successful.
There was a conference in london a few weeks ago where it was discussed how hip impingment is often mistook for a sports hernia. Many people have unsuccessful operations for sport hernias due to people not relating groin pain to the hip, and due to mri's not being studied by a hip specialist first.
Therefore anyone with symptons of a sports hernia should see a hip specialst before having sugery, or see one if you've already had an unsuccessful operation. Obviously many of you are suffering from sports hernias, but there will be some that have this hip impingment im sure. It effects young to middle age athletes, and causes pain throughout the groin area. The pain progresses slowly and is particulary worse after intense activity. Another sympton that is sometimes present is aching in the lower part of the back on the same side. Search about it on the internet anyway. heres one site
GD luck everyone.
It looks like a couple months got deleted from this thread.
I just wanted to put up an encouraging note that I had surgery with Dr. Meyers 6 weeks ago and am already back running without any real problems. Before surgery, I would be in severe pain after running 1 mile, but last night I did 9 no problem. The only pain I have felt in the past couple weeks has stemmed from irritation to the incision site, which is pretty minor. I would strongly encourage anyone who values their athletics and is having symptoms of A.P. to go see Dr. Meyers, the sooner the better.
I am also suffereing from SH for the past 4 months. After series of tests and doctor visits my surgeon told me about the possibility of sports hernia. I am on medication currently hoping that the symptoms will resolve, but its a month now on medications and no much improvement. Does it take really long for these to heal. As I am not involved in any sports I am able to keep the symptoms down. But it partially inhibits my daily activities. Did anyone here had this on a very low scale level like me. I never have any pain but just discomforts which bothers.
After looking at the posts here, it seems most of the posts tell about unsuccessful operations or treatments, Please can some one who had a successful operation or treatment post some encouraging words. Is the treatment or operation successful over a long period of time, like several months or few years.
Can anybody suggest some SH specialist in NY/NJ area who can be helpful. Your help will be highly appreciated,
You can make an appointment with Bryan Kelly. He referred me to Meyers a few months ago. Dr. Kelly does shoulder knee and hip surgeries, and referred me to Meyers in the first place. I'm going back to him b/c of a possible labral tear, Meyers recommended I go back to him, so he's apparently held in high regard.
Check out his website at www.bryankellymd.com
Best of luck!
What's happened to the thread, we used to be 75+ pages. Invaluable information has gone missing. Does anyone know what happened? How can we get those pages back?
i remember you.
sorry to hear you are having issues.
i wish i could help.
but i just saw dr kelly in nyc today, since i am almost 2 years out with pain still.
yes, i have bilateral fai after bialteral sports hernias.
the docs in upstate ny are clueless. all research and referrals came from yours truly. i don't know if i will ever play sports again but am remaining hopeful.
you might want to see dr meyers because after all of this i think he is more complete in his viewpoints of the injury
i spoke with him two days ago and it was great.
ps you can email me
Does Dr Meyers see and perform surgeries on patients who are not athletes? I am not an athlete, not even a weekend athlete. What is the criteria for the surgery? I dont have much pain but its constant discomfort is nagging me for the past 5 months. My local doctor diagnosed it as sports hernia, though he does not prefer it to call this "sports hernia". Any non athletes here who are suffering from this?
Johnny what is your email? I think you could be a good source of useful information.
I had surgery last year with Dr. M in Germany and I have United Health Care with a plan that covered 80% of the cost per my "out of network" policy. I had to send in the proof of payment afterwards and it took a few months to process but it was covered for 80%.
As for the differences between Dr. M and Meyers, Dr. M is much less invasive from what I understand about Meyers procedure. The surgery with Dr. M was the easiest surgery I ever had...local anesthetic with sedation so you wake up feeling normal not sick like after general anesthesia. After my 45 minute surgery, I was able to immediately feel the pain gone. I was never in any pain and felt fine from right after the surgery. I walked 3-4 miles around Munich the next day with no pain. I ran a light 1.5 miles three days after surgery with no problems. I am going back in August because my other side has a sports hernia (I had a slight sports hernia last year on this side and it now has developed into a painful, typical one now).
Hope this helps,