Is This A Sports Hernia (aka Gilmore's Groin...)??
Pain has been around for a year+
Started in left abductor. Pain was sharp while running. AT diagnosed it as a groin pull. Subsided for a bit
Returned in right side. AT treated it again. Subsided for abit.
Pain has now returned, for now 7 month, with a constant dull pain in my lower abdomen, groin. Pain spreads to abductors while running. Can become sharp.
At one point, went as far as to hurt my testicals. Went away after some treatment.
Very difficult to do abs, especially leg lifts.
Took almost 2 weeks off after outdoor season in hopes of getting rid of it. Upon returning to running, it has only gotten worse.
Hurts while coughing or sneezing.
Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or "
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sounds like it to me ... I have similar symptoms, still untreated.
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Can anyone that's done this with Meyers please explain what the exercises on the rehab program are?
FIRST 3 WEEKS Relative rest
o Activities of daily living only. No lifting or other activities that increase intraabdominal pressure (i.e. ping pong)
WEEK 4 No sit-ups or biking
BEGINNING Posterior pelvic tilt (5-6 sec. hold) sets of 10
RESISTIVE EXERCISES Mild resistive exercises – Pool exercises
o Pool walking: forward and backward (3-5 laps initially)
o Standing hip adduction/abduction, flexion, extension (30 reps each)
o Partial squats (30 reps)
o Heel raising (30 reps)
Gentle stretching
o Side bending (4 times for 30 seconds each)
o Hip extension stretch (4 times for 30 seconds each)
o Psoas, groin, hamstring, quads
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WEEK 5 Progressive resistance exercises
GETTING BACK TO Hip flexion/adduction/abduction/extension with body weight - when sets of 10-10-15
NORMAL SHAPE accomplished, weights may be increased in 2lb increments
Pool exercises
o Running backward/forward, cariocas, side slides (3-5 laps initially), jumping jacks (legs only), scissors, swimming (flutter kicks only – NO BUTTERFLY STROKE)
Jogging ½ mile – 1 mile (include backward runs and increase in ¼ mile increments) and the following agility drills: 50 yard agility drills for every ¼ mile
Strengthening: Abdominal crunches
o Sprinting – 50 yards with gradual 25 yard warm-up and 23 yard cool down. Gradually build up speed avoiding sudden stops and starts
o Cross-overs/straddles
o Figure 8’s
o Lunges – 3 sets of 10
o Pylometrics – shuttle, rope jumping
o Add sport specific activities as follows:
*Soccer (dribbling, passing). No shooting or long volleys.
*Running (hills, sprints)
o Upper body exercises can be incorporated in a progressive fashion – 20 minutes
o Stairmaster – 20 minutes
o Calisthenics
Week 6 Scrimmage, progressive controlled contact (mild pain expected particularly after
PLAY exercising…if you experience sharp and/or severe pain modify exercise program to eliminate trigger point). Do not do more sit-ups or crunches this week.
o Return to normal workout pattern
End of sixth week RETURN TO PLAY
*Specific rehab protocol based on several factors and will be determined at time of office visit.
All cardiovascular activities should include 5 minutes warm-up time, 20 minutes exercise
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how high up the thigh is the adductor region that dr. meyers wants his patients to massage after 7 days? Whenever I try to push my walking I flare up and my incision site becomes swollen. Is this normal? Did this happen to anyone else?
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another question...how long does the pain last? when you start the rehab should the pain be completely gone?
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I also had quite a bit of swelling at the incision sites, particularly when I overdid it. I found that gently massaging the areas above and below the incision seemed to help, but maybe the swelling would have gone down anyway. It had come and gone several times, flaring up whenever I do a bit too much.
I'm now at about 5 1/2 weeks and taking the rehab slowly. so I'm only up to 1 1/2 mile run, with another half and quarter mile a bit faster interspersed with walking for a total of about 3 1/2 miles every morning. However, I am also doing quite a bit of other walking and light work around my place. Still pain and discomfort but nothing major. I'm sure I could run further at this point, but am also dealing with lots of muscle soreness because I was off for a year!
Anyone out there know much about massaging the wound area? I've been doing it more and more agressively, but don't really remmeber much of what Trish told me.
To Sports hernia
You've got to find a way to get walking!!!
Jeff -
Hey guys 2 weeks out from meyer's surgey,... this site was a huge help in getting a diagnosis. The only problem was I got two (minor torn labrum in the right hip as well as AP) long story short a novacaine shot in the hip didn't help so Meyer's decided I was a good candidate. But my hip is really bothering me now alomst worse than before surgery.
2 questions:
Has anyone on this forum had both injuries (AP and torn labrum)?
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waves2ya, I also had to make sure that everything was order with the sex part. So, I also tested it out but now I have a sharp pain in my testicals and it feels like it is twisting and it always seems to be sitting higher than the normal one. I had the same pain before the surgery but I was wondering by testing it, I think I might have screw the inguinal ring and I'm thinking it might be dilated and pressuring the ilioinguinal nerve or the spermatic cord that runs to the testicle. Did anyone else have this experience?
waves2ya wrote:
Janet's right; I posted about this in way earlier threads; shit is stitched back together (of course doesn't speak to what he can't get to).
no sex for 3 months... you got's to be joking; after that procedure I was right ready to make sure equipment still worked pretty asap (2 weeks)...
As my prior threads say - beware the dumb moment (I remember 'em all); but you are not undoing that work without major trauma (think "car accident"). Relax; gut it out; could be a long road for you; don't "f" things up with impatience (jon)...
know well Meyers calling card: "use it, don't lose it" and pray to god your repair works out. even them, use your head - stay cool - work around it. you've had the best deal with your sticky situation; now figure out your part of the deal...
your injury has everything to teach you (i hate that saying; turns out it was true...) -
You will experience different soreness throughout the rehab.
I do not know of anyone that had a painfree rehab. As for your other question, it will swell when you break up some scar tissue. -
does anyone know where this adductor massaging is supposed to be??? am i the only one who was told to massage it after 7 days out from meyers???
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Yeah, I'm just going the whole way, up and down. However, I'm not the one to ask.
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I was instructed by Dr. Meyers massage therapist to massage the adductors in a circular fashion for about 10 minutes a day from the pubic bone towards the buttock. It can be sore but not painful.
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Hello,
I had surgery in November on both sides for a sports hernia. I have been pain free for 6 months but 2 days ago started to get pain in my right groin and now have pain in my lower abdomen.
Has anyone suffered a relapse after surgery, any advice much appreciated, thanks, Mark -
Janet,
Do you remember them saying anything about massaging the wound area? I have been doing it, and it seems to help.
By the way, how is your recovery going?
Jeff -
He did not say to specifically massage it but he was OK when I talked to him on the phone with the Physiotherapist doing scar tissue massage.
I am doing most of my rehab in the water still as I am one of the 37% who have the hip problem too and will be having surgery for that later on in the year. On land I am doing the basic core exercises and the light upper body weights.
No running or cycling for me until I get the hip fixed.
Hope you are doing well Jeff -
Couple questions for anyone who may be able to help...
I've had three years of various groin, lower ab discomfort and chronic soreness. Been misdiagnosed, etc. Much the same story I've read on here from others (there's strength in numbers, I guess...
Fortunately, my orthopedic doctor has a relationship with Dr. Muschaweck and she came to his office this week (in NJ) to see some patients. She immediately diagnosed me w/ a sports hernia on both sides. Great to finally have a diagnosis. Not-so-great that she only operates in Germany (and insurance covers nothing). I'm weighing the decision of going there (and spending $18K I don't have - all inclusive; damn that sinking dollar) and talking to Meyer in Philadelphia, who it seems many of you have used... My questions:
(1) I'm unclear as to whether Dr. Meyer performs the same minimal repair technique that Dr. Muschaweck seems to have invented/perfected. Or does he use the mesh (which it doesn't seem that I want)?
(2) Does anyone have information re: the Dr. Meyer procedure and your ability to have insurance pay for some/all of the costs?
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SND- I'm not sure what all the differences are between Muschaweck and Meyers (I had mine w/ Meyers 16 days ago), but Meyers is probably more invasive. He is strongly opposed to using mesh. It seems like insurance is a roll of the dice.
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Sub6 - how did you fare w/ Meyers and insurance?
And you answered my question re: his procedure, I think. I just didn't want him to use mesh...
Still trying to figure out if I could get any of the Germany procedure w/ Muschaweck paid by insurance. Her office tells me that many of her patients do have success. If any of you have seen Muschaweck and had success w/ insurance, please let me know...
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SND- I don't know yet, I haven't gotten anything from my provider (Aetna PPO) yet. Marcia said that in the past they had not had problems with them, but I found a rather ominous policy bulliten issued in March:
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/700_799/0750.html
Still, I might have a shot at fighting it if they reject it. -
hey everyone..happy fathers day!...anyway i'm 3 1/2 weeks out and I went to the casino yesterday and did a fair bit of walking and today I have the sharpest pain..it hurts when i cough and laugh...on a scale from 1-10 its a definite 10. Is this bad? should it hurt when i'm coughing?
