Desi Davila and Ryan Hall - will they ever learn?

I'm surprised there aren't more off season training camps in San Diego. Good weather, close to the border.

[quote]McGruff the dope crime dog wrote:

...this was during the phase when he and Chapa both were sponsored by Converse and received monthly checks to wear those crappy shoes.................

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How dare you sir, refer to the maker of the most iconic sports shoe of all time, the Chuck Taylor All Star, as making "crappy shoes."

I have to agree on this one. Kenyans run good because of their genetics not becuase of Iten. She can save money and get a extra day of training by just going to some place local that is warmish, at altitude and has gravel roads.

Billy goat gruff sauce wrote:

Iten and Eldoret are too high in elevation to have Malaria. Thanks for just saying things.

^ POTD

Salazar lived in a hotel in the (I think) 3 weeks he spent in Kenya training for the 1980 Olympics. Everything was fine running and acommodation-wise but not having anything real to do the rest of the time drove him nuts and eventually he returned to Eugene.

Here's the drop, photo from Reid Coolsaet this week:

http://instagram.com/p/jCc3AiExHB/#

Les wrote:

Salazar lived in a hotel in the (I think) 3 weeks he spent in Kenya training for the 1980 Olympics. Everything was fine running and acommodation-wise but not having anything real to do the rest of the time drove him nuts and eventually he returned to Eugene.

I trust that was the case. My coach liked to tell "tall tales". He made it sound like Salazar went to Kenya and was living in a shack with no running water and got so sick he had to lay in bed the whole time. At least that was the image I got.

OP, you are an idiot.

Running Insider wrote:

This brings up the question why she wants to travel 30h+

It is not 30h from any major US city to Iten.

Running Insider wrote:

to an unsafe place (for white women at least)

Iten is very safe, and probably more so for a white woman like Desi than for Kenyan men.

Running Insider wrote:

with virtually no reputable doctors/PT/hospitals around

Expat hospitals in Kenyan are probably better than what you'll get without insurance in the US.

Running Insider wrote:

and a high risk of contracting Malaria.

Malaria prophylaxis has been around for decades and is extremely effective.

Running Insider wrote:

When she could just have a 3h flight and train in Flagstaff with fellow Americans. Just FYI, the weather this week over there is between 50 and 60 degrees, mostly sunny.

Just FYI, the Rift Valley has basically perfect running weather every single day.

Any more stupid questions, "running insider"?

I'm surprised more pros don't travel to kenya or nz and aus in the (northern hemisphere) winter.

u kiddies need an a$$ whooping

TJ AJ RJ wrote:

First Yolo reference I've seen on letsrun.

Today is a historic day.

When I was running in last year's Boston Marathon, there was a dude running near me with "Yolo" written on his chest. I was not aware of this and kept wondering "Why the hell are all of these fans shouting yolo?" for the first 15 miles of the race. I eventually figured out what was going on and lost the guy in the Newton Hills, thank goodness.

Side Effects wrote:

SMJO wrote:

They have drugs that prevent Malaria now. Welcome to modern times.

Yes, smarty pants, but are they drugs that a professional athlete would want to take? (assuming that malaria is, in fact, a threat in the location[s] she'll visit)

I don't know but surely actual Malaria would be worse, no?

Just so you know, its more dangerous in the USA than Kenya. so stop your ignorance

Running Insider wrote:

Desi is training in Kenya to prep for Boston.

http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/desiree-davila-is-training-in-kenya-for-boston-marathon

This brings up the question why she wants to travel 30h+ to an unsafe place (for white women at least) with virtually no reputable doctors/PT/hospitals around and a high risk of contracting Malaria.

When she could just have a 3h flight and train in Flagstaff with fellow Americans. Just FYI, the weather this week over there is between 50 and 60 degrees, mostly sunny.

Or is it because of the lack of out of comp testing over there in remote areas? Hmmmm.

just sayin wrote:

wada says hi

John Fahey, president of the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada), said there was a "cloud hanging over them". He said: "For some time, we have been very concerned about the accusations of doping there," going on to describe Kenya as "a location of choice for dopers".

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/drug-cheats-are-pushing-the-boundaries-in-athletics-8604176.html

Fair enough, but take Farah for example. He falls under the UKA '1 hour every day to be available for anti-doping'. It doesn't matter whether he's in London, Oregon, Iten or anywhere. He has to say where he is during that period, and if his names comes up, he'll get tested. No chance to hide in the mountains like perhaps some of the locals might get away with.

SMJO wrote:

They have drugs that prevent Malaria now. Welcome to modern times.

And Rift Valley Fever?

Not a Coach wrote:

SMJO wrote:

They have drugs that prevent Malaria now. Welcome to modern times.

And Rift Valley Fever?

LOL

@

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trollism wrote:

Fair enough, but take Farah for example. He falls under the UKA '1 hour every day to be available for anti-doping'. It doesn't matter whether he's in London, Oregon, Iten or anywhere. He has to say where he is during that period, and if his names comes up, he'll get tested. No chance to hide in the mountains like perhaps some of the locals might get away with.

yes but it's well known you can microdose epo and stay under the radar of the blood passport

also the use of altitude tents and altitude is cover for epo use as you get a bye on the passport system if you've been at altitude within 15 previous days

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Not a Coach wrote:

And Rift Valley Fever?

LOL

@

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SMJO wrote:

They have drugs that prevent Malaria now. Welcome to modern times.

All anti-malarisl meds must be taken for a long time and have bad side effects. They compromise your immune system and reek havoc on your intestinal system. The modern world is complicated. Try to keep up.