Brenda martinez "base training"

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In the latest running times feature article on her, it was mentioned that her easy runs are really slow so that she can really push her hard workouts without getting injured. People, keep in mind that she might be destroying these workouts, but that really isn't that hard to do when her easy days are sometimes run at 8-9 min. pace

Precious Roy wrote: I am so tired of runners thinking that their training is some great secret that they cannot let out or else their competitors will have a big advantage. Keeps the sport from growing an audience (or holding on to what audience is left).

The reason most really fast runners don't do this is actually much simpler and more benign: They just don't feel like it. I don't post every detail of what I do professionally or personally on the Internet, but it's not because I don't want to be surpassed in these things. It's because I don't care to waste time doing it.

Anyone who wants to know what a given elite athlete is doing is free to contact that person or his or her coach. It's very easy. People who want information can't always just sit around passively hunched over their laptops and iPhones like drooling drones, pointing and clicking away expecting to be spoon-fed every single detail of an athlete's preparation thanks to a blog or online training log.

I think when things are brand new, you have to spoon feed until they are trained to know how to do it on their own and develop a love for doing it. Without the structure, there is nothing. We know what results from nothing. People are more like drones. Most of what we do during the day is habit. Creating good habits is where we need to be.

Wouldn't/Isn't the idea be to destroy workouts and recover on recovery run days?

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Every coach has their own style, but my initial thought is that she's working out WAY too hard. When I was in low 4:00 mile shape I'd be running the same times as her tempos. I doubt she'll be teetering on the edge of 4:00 any time soon. My guess is that the effort on these is much closer to race for her. I guess if she can handle it, more power to her.

trirunner96 wrote:

In the latest running times feature article on her, it was mentioned that her easy runs are really slow so that she can really push her hard workouts without getting injured. People, keep in mind that she might be destroying these workouts, but that really isn't that hard to do when her easy days are sometimes run at 8-9 min. pace

So you're telling me she runs her fast days fast and her slow days slow?!

Brooks Launch wrote:

Every coach has their own style, but my initial thought is that she's working out WAY too hard. When I was in low 4:00 mile shape I'd be running the same times as her tempos. I doubt she'll be teetering on the edge of 4:00 any time soon. My guess is that the effort on these is much closer to race for her. I guess if she can handle it, more power to her.

It's working for her, she has the World Championships medal.

Her training is badly misguided.

Brooks Launch wrote:

Every coach has their own style, but my initial thought is that she's working out WAY too hard. When I was in low 4:00 mile shape I'd be running the same times as her tempos. I doubt she'll be teetering on the edge of 4:00 any time soon. My guess is that the effort on these is much closer to race for her. I guess if she can handle it, more power to her.

The proof is in the pudding. First woman medalist in the 800 world championships. And I believe these are prescribed paces. I don't think she just runs as hard as possible

Interesting. No long run. She doesn't say what event she's training for -- 800 or 1500?

Les wrote:

Interesting. No long run. She doesn't say what event she's training for -- 800 or 1500?

Base phase is probably the same for both. She's most likely going to run both this season anyway

I think she replaces her long runs with aerobic tempos. They accomplish the same goal. Aerobic base. I hear her say before that she is just trying to get all her PRs down including the 5ke

Les wrote:

Interesting. No long run. She doesn't say what event she's training for -- 800 or 1500?

vigilante wrote:

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god help me if this is her base training. What do u guys think?

She's coached by Joe Vigil so you can bet she's bringing some serious mileage.

That 10 miler is at a very quick pace for a 4:00 1500m runner.

Runcogrun wrote:

It's working for her, she has the World Championships medal.

And you don't.

IdiotProof wrote:

That 10 miler is at a very quick pace for a 4:00 1500m runner.

That is probably her aerobic threshold as determined by vigil. we will have to wait and see how this works out. But I'm pretty sure deena kastor did crazy sounding runs too.

I love coach Vigil and think he is a great leader, one of those that come around not very often that has a great ability to get people to believe in themselves, by in fully and do things they never thought possible.

While I see the physiological basis of his training and believe in it up until the final 3 weeks of the season. I have a hard time buying into essentially running a mile time trial the Monday before the Saturday National Championships. Not that it hasn't worked but aren't you running the race before the race?

And the milers do all out 400's every day up through the rounds and final. Why is she doing 54-55 second 400's the day before?

I've read the book, I get the science behind it. But is this seriously the best way. Are his athletes so well trained an all out 400 the day before is an easy day?

Can someone explain here how the last 3-4 weeks of the season work and the success and failures here? I'm wondering specifically about running regionals, then a mile time trial, then nationals.