Dallas marathon cancelled!

seriously... wrote:

That's what I thought, The White Rock Marathon will be fine.

So this disgrace of a marathon we have been talking about was supposed to be held in a now non-existent town of White Rock?

No wonder they took everybody's money and cancelled before all the runners found out this was just make believe.

You are comparing NYC to White Rock? Seriously?Are you comparing some ice patches to hurricane Sandy? Seriously?You do realize NYC offered all entrants a full refund, don't you? You do realize White Rock entrants get ZERO refund?Comparing the NYC cancellation to White Rock is laughable and makes White Rock look WORSE.Sure, local runners may still run the race. Yet, White Rock now has a POOR national public image for organization and ethics.

seriously... wrote:

good grief. wrote:

This debacle is AWFUL PR for the Dallas marathon.

What the F ever. You don't even know the name of the race. Was cancelling the NYC Marathon an awful PR for them? Did most reasonable people understand and not make a big deal out of it? Did it still require a lottery to get an entry this year?

That's what I thought, The White Rock Marathon will be fine.

Dallas-Fort Worthless should have put salt down on the

marathon course and sidewalks, and made the race happen.

Anybody in Texas familiar with the concept of making things

happen?

What? Talk about a fool who doesn't know the name. It is now the Metro PCS Dallas Marathon but it used to be called White Rock Marathon because it started back in the day as a race run three times around White Rock Lake in East Dallas. It is no longer called the White Rock Marathon. This would have been my tenth year in a row running this race but these amateur country bumpkin thieves have ended that.

seriously... wrote:

What the F ever. You don't even know the name of the race. Was cancelling the NYC Marathon an awful PR for them? Did most reasonable people understand and not make a big deal out of it? Did it still require a lottery to get an entry this year?

That's what I thought, The White Rock Marathon will be fine.

I ran Dallas 2005, it was pretty cold at the start, definitely in the 30's, beautiful race.

Ole Timer wrote:

I went to UT Austin for grad school, grew up in WI, so it was funny to me to see how Texans dealt with a little ice. We had it a few times during my time there. They'd always get on the radio and say stuff like:

"Now, y'all, remember, don't y'all throw a bucket of boilin' hawt water on y'alls windshield to melt the ice. It don't work."

I loved that place.

Haha. I almost did that one day when it iced over, but somebody ran over to stop me. They don't even sell ice scrapers in most of the stores here, so when it does ice over people are f**ked.

When I lived in Texas about 20 some years ago, I remember buying ice scrapers at the gas station. I agree, it didn't snow very often when I was there but when it did, boy it was a big deal. As for ice on the roads, I wouldn't have run the marathon even if they paid for my entry fee and medal. I don't know, looking at the whole picture and reading the "fine" print of a race, I don't blame them. However, if this situation put you out of a lot of money or grief then it wouldn't hurt to contact the RD of the race to voice your opinion.

good grief. wrote:

What a load of BS. The Dallas Stars had their hockey game without logistical problems. If the the roads were "impassable" how did thousands of fans get to the game and then back home? And "thousands" of flights were not canceled.

Even IF the cancellation was justified, entrants should not lose 100% of their entry fee.

This is absolutely horrible PR for the Dallas marathon. I would never even consider running this race after this debacle.

30:45X-C1978 wrote:

Dallas had a bad ice storm with impassable road ways and thousands of cancelled flights just the day before the race--and that just might have something to do with it. It has zero to do with a lack on interest in running or what part of the country can or cannot deal with cold weather.

You said it was going to be sunny and 40 degrees for the marathon. How did that forecast turn out? The NWS owned whoever you got your weather info from. Bad PR for your weather guy...

Good grief.

It was partly sunny and 37.

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You said it was going to be sunny and 40 degrees for the marathon. How did that forecast turn out? The NWS owned whoever you got your weather info from. Bad PR for your weather guy...[/quote]

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Anybody in Texas familiar with the concept of making things

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Another reason why people in the south are perceived as soft. cold weather ooooh.

arctic#runner wrote:...This is what I was thinking too. They shouldn't have cancelled the race, but made it clear that people needed to use their best judgment when deciding whether or not to come to the race...If people can't use good judgment and get hurt running or traveling, then consider this an example of thinning out the herd or natural selection.

That's fine to say to the entrants, but what about the thousands of volunteers it takes to put on this event? And I'm not talking just raceday, you have to think about packet pickup, course setup and breakdown, all the peripheral services it takes to put on a race, especially in a big city. If it's 25 people getting together out on a dirt road somewhere to run a race that's one thing, but you're talking tens of thousands of people. Given the conditions as reported in Dallas around the time this race was supposed to happen, if I'm on the list to volunteer I think seriously if I'm going to meet that commitment or not. Then, if you have thousands of runners show up and you have significant numbers of volunteers NOT show up, your ability to put on a safe race is severely compromised.

On the positive side, they cancelled somewhat early. Those of us who produce races learned a lot from NYC about making that call early. If you have a race of any decent size it's far worse to make a last minute call to cancel.

On the negative side, no refunds announced and little other consideration. If Memphis can make the kind of offer they did, even NYC stepping up to a degree, it's hard to believe Dallas is going to leave it at "so sorry" with nothing of value on the table for those who committed to their race in advance. As a long-time RD, if I had to cancel a race I'd do everything I could to try to provide some value to runners, even though knowing that once a race is cancelled nothing I can do gets those who trained for the event and were looking forward to it back to even. Even if the race's proceeds were all going to charity, I feel if you cancel you should give the entrants the option of donating to that charity or not. A well worded email that explains the mission of the charity, I have got to believe most entrants would just say "fine, donate it to the hospital".

Marathoners need to get over themselves. Any time a race is cancelled we have the same stupid debates.

You running a marathon is the not prime concern of 99.9% of the population nor should it be. You should understand that IF a city has a major weather event like an ice storm or hurricane or flood, etc.. the city is NOT going to cater to your little bourgeois event. In those instances the police, fire, and emergency personnel have actual concerns to deal with.