ranphilly wrote:
For a race like Philly the cost would just be incredibly high to police the entire out and back carefully when the huge crowd of 3:30 - 4:30 runners are going by.there are almost 12 miles of road where it would be very easy to cut at any point. And there's no good reason to enforce that strictly.
I haven't looked at the splits, but it's a pretty thin set of runners until about 3:00 or even 3:15. Under this time it would be very hard to cut the course and not get noticed by other runners and race personnel.
I suppose to maintain respectability it's reasonable for them to enforce course-cutting strictly up until the women's Boston qualifying time (3:35?).
There are three hairpin turns on the Philly course. A good start would be to put down timing mats at the second (after crossing Falls Bridge) and the third (in Manayunk). But that costs $, and I don't think anybody wants to see Philly charging NYCM-level entry fees.
Even if the race did take splits at those points... so what? If an RD is not going to bother to use that information to certify results, we're back the square one.
Speaking of which, who IS the actual RD of the Philly Marathon? I know that Desiree Peterkin-Bell is the Executive Director of the race, but I think part of the problem is that there's no Race Director in the traditional sense charged with addressing these sorts of issues. Peterkin-Bell's work for the city is as a communications strategist, not an athletics coordinator, and she is not part of the Parks and Recreation division (which hosts the Broad Street Run).
Though I have to wonder about who exactly is minding the store, even on the communications front, when the race's website waited until several days after the race to add a button for the race results to the homepage.