25:15 is solid, but world class on the roads is about 3:00 faster.
27:00 for 10K with even pacing sees the 8K mark passed at 21:36.
25:15 is solid, but world class on the roads is about 3:00 faster.
27:00 for 10K with even pacing sees the 8K mark passed at 21:36.
trew fqtz wrote:
He ran 14:51 to win a track 5000m six months ago. 25:15 is not better than 14:51.
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=90987-Lukas-Verzbicas-Wins-Mixed-5000m-Jim-Bush-Classic-2013I'd like to see him make the comeback and run well for the U.S. in international competition. But my impression is that even running fans underestimate how brutally tough a sport this is.
1) Roads typically result in slower times than the track (unless the entire race is some enormous downhill)
For instance, even Carlsbad, which is notorious for being a fast 5k, has runners like Kipchoge and Gebrmeskel failing to break 13:00 when they can do it with ease on the Diamond League Circuit.
2) He's racing a longer distance. As the distance goes up, your pace gets slower.
At Carlsbad, IIRC, Verzbicas only managed about a 15:22, which, based on the elite times, is actually very reflective of his 14:51 track 5k ability.
For him to be able to hold a 25:15 for an 8k is basically for him to be running his previous 5k pace for a distance that's 3000m longer.
I would say that's a pretty good improvement.
Can he come back and make the cut for elite standards? As of now, it's pretty hard to tell. Especially since I'm almost positive that the spinal cord injury will likely have lasting effects.
But is he showing signs of significant improvement? Undoubtedly yes. On the roads, running a 15:22 5k and then a 25:15 8k just 6 months later is great improvement!
STN wrote:
Personally, I think a 25:15 5-miler is incredibly good. It's been about 1.5 years since the accident, and maybe a year since he was able to start training again. An injury to the spinal cord is something else. It's nothing like stress fractures, tendon strains, and other standard running injuries that plague most professionals.
I saw some of the videos post-accident and back then, I was 100% sure that Verzbicas would never run again, let alone for him to be running 5-minute pace for a 5-miler this soon afterwards.
Since you were 100% sure that something would never happen that DID actually happen is follows that your opinion and judgement are worthless.
What are people's take on LV's 9th place at Clermont (little over a minute off the winning pace)
Slow on the bike, even though he could draft.
LV update wrote:
What are people's take on LV's 9th place at Clermont (little over a minute off the winning pace)
http://allsportsevents.com/Results/triathlon_results/ClermontChallenge2014.html#/results::1393796413197
LV update wrote:
What are people's take on LV's 9th place at Clermont (little over a minute off the winning pace)
http://allsportsevents.com/Results/triathlon_results/ClermontChallenge2014.html#/results::1393796413197
Some individuals have 21 minute bike-splits and 7+ minute transitions, while others have 27-19 minute bike-splits and 30 second transitions...
Because of this, I wouldn't say that the intermediate split times are particularly reliable.
The fact that all participants are listed as age 99 is a bit peculiar too.
Seems like a positive result for him, all things considered. He had the 4th fastest run time and ran down Shoemaker. Bike leg was slow. As before his injury, he's getting gapped on the swim and missing the lead bike pack. As a junior, he could still run most everyone down, but that's not going to work at the senior level.
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