Is he attending school or is he banking on being a pro athlete?
Is he attending school or is he banking on being a pro athlete?
blah blah blah wrote:
I bet you wouldnt say to his/hers face p***y
There would be no need to say anything because the spelling error would not be evident in a face-to-face conversation.
You're not very smart, are you? (Well, I suppose that is obvious when one considers that you were sticking up for a moron.)
cookiemousie wrote:
Are you joking?!?!?!?!!?!
He is the two time footlocker cross country nationals champion. His track times include a 3:59 mile, 8:29 2 mile and a 14:06 5k.
You should look him up so you know what you are talking about before you comment.
Hmmm. How about one step at a time? I disagree with the posting that says 23 min 8K this week maybe, 24, no way.
But that contributor is on the right train of thought. You'd want to see a progression, with times getting faster over the next year. Break 30 for 10K, then 29, and then you're getting to qualifying for OTs. Then what?
LV has been through major trauma less than a year and a half ago and the fact that he's running is a major miracle. Let's see what he does over the next six or eight months.
And I will leave this with one more question. Why are so many letsrunners so stupid? 90% of the posts on this thread are outright stupid.
What about the 1500? Also he would probably be pretty good at the steeple. The distance is his best range and he is very athletic from all the triathlons
getting back to the topic at hand - geez there are some childish people on this board - it is a long-shot. Ask Solinsky how easy it is coming back from surgery? Is LV talented? Yes. Is that enough to make the US Olympic team in track - No!
If the Triathlon is not the right path for him (are the US guys at the top level these days?), then he might be better off trying to compete for Lithuania on the track, assuming that this is allowed (is he a US citizen anyway? does he he have dual citizenship?).
As to coaching, does J.Cruz know what he is doing? He certainly has the pedigree (Olympic Champion) to help, but LV is not a 800m runner, or even a 1500m guy at the OG level. The problem as well may be training partners, but then it is about making the team (unlikely), not winning at the OG. There is nothing to indicate that Salazar has any better knowledge than Cruz. He has an infrastructure, and has talented athletes that his connection with Nike provides. Frankly, there are equally knowledgable coaches elsewhere who simply don't have his connections and/or access to that quality of athlete.
Seriously though- why not consider the steeple? At the US national level, it would probably be the easiest of the teams to make between the 1500 and 10,000. It seems like it is the ideal distance for him and one would certainly think that he is some athleticism from tri that would carry over. He was also a great XC runner and has a very impressive 2 mile pr, which are typically good steeple indicators.
Not to call steeple qualifying easy- it isn't by any means. The depth in the event in the US is a bit thinner though and no one could possibly fault Lukas for trying to maximize his chances to make a team coming off a near death experience and major surgery.
Victor Maitland wrote:
Yes! wrote:Wait LV's goal is ot make the 20126 Olympic team in tri AND track? That is simply impossible.
No kidding, he'll be about 18,130 years old by then. Well past his peak, even if he moves up to the 10K.
LMAO! Just about spit my coffee out on my keyboard on this one. Good one!
As long as he's even remotely focusing on the triathlon, there is ZERO percent chance he makes a U.S. Olympic team on the track. First off, it'll take him the next two years to even get back to respectability on the running scene. Second, while he broke 4 in the mile, that's a LONG way off from making a U.S. team, especially a U.S. Olympic team. The top guys can break 4 in their sleep, LV peaked and was in his best shape ever and barely broke it. He lacks a stable environment, lacks clear focus and doesn't have the drive to make the team on the track. He needs to shut up and stick with what he actually cares about.
ummmmmmm noo wrote:
The Grow Up Messenger wrote:You don't quit on your team in the middle of the season.
You NEVER quit on your team in the middle of the season.
I wish him the very best in all of his life. Just as I do everyone else.
But you NEVER quit on your team in the middle of the season.
You sound like an a**hole. He wasn't running well and made the choice that he thought was best for him and it was best for the team. He wasn't scoring and was just dead. I assure you, he owed nothing to the U of O and their famed "academic" institution. How about you NEVER know what someone else may be going through and applying what you CLAIM you would do in that person's situation and using it as your metric to judge whether or not he or she is a good person is just lame. Grow up you butt hurt jackass.
INCORRECT!
Your post indicates severe levels, indeed most likely terminal levels, of stupidity.
You NEVER quit on your team in the middle of a season.
Given that there will BE no Olympics in 20126, I'm gonna say no. But you freeze his arse for 18,112 years then wake him up and get him on whatever cocktail Lance was on and I'd say he's got as good a shot as anyone in 20124 or 20128.
Good One! wrote:
Victor Maitland wrote:No kidding, he'll be about 18,130 years old by then. Well past his peak, even if he moves up to the 10K.
LMAO! Just about spit my coffee out on my keyboard on this one. Good one!
He might have a shot @ 2020 if he gives up Tri training. He's going to have a ton of competition from guys who've been training just for running for well over a decade.
The way I figure it is the best 5k/10k runners in the world are sticks. Even a bigger guy like Solinsky slimmed down quite a bit going from HS to college to Pros. That is the requirement. You need to be light. No exceptions to this when it comes to being in the top echelon of distance runners.
From what I've seen in Triathlons - you can't be super skinny because that will hurt your biking and swimming. You need to retain some extra muscle. That muscle weighs you down in a longer running race. Bikers tend to have bigger thighs and swimmers tend to have well developed/bigger upper body. Neither of which an olympic-caliber 5k/10k guy has - for good reason.
I think that is the fork in the road for Lukas. If he tries to maintain fitness in both sports he will fail. You cannot beat a guy who is training 100% towards running when you yourself are still giving a portion of your day to another sport. You can't be Bo Jackson in distance running. You must focus wholeheartedly if you have any chance at the very top.
All the best to him - but he disrespected the sport by leaving it for another. I can think of a dozen deserving guys who I'd rather see in 2020 5k or 10k. Ultimately though - it's ALL about the medal count. If he can get a medal, I will, reluctantly, support him.
cookiemousie wrote:
Are you joking?!?!?!?!!?!
He is the two time footlocker cross country nationals champion. His track times include a 3:59 mile, 8:29 2 mile and a 14:06 5k.
You should look him up so you know what you are talking about before you comment.
And the top guys in the US can run a 359 mile at the end of a championship 5k.
And can run under 13:10 as well.
I'd love to see Lukas qualify for the Olympics and how sweet it would be if the Trials were in Eugene.
Imagine all those bitter Duck fans crapping their pants at the same time!
I think you need to take your own advice and GROW UP
A. why are we tying athleticism to triathlons?
B. 2020 is 6+ years from now - which means every competitor from last weekend's NCAA championship will be out of college and 6+ years developed - plus we'll have a whole new crop of runners (and probably another "Verzibicas").
C. Fernandez's chances at 2016 or 2020 Olympic team in TRACK
(3:55/8:34/13:25)
I support the goals of Verz but qualifying for the Olympics is a microscopic window. With that said, it would be great to see "another Ritz" on the line in a race like Zurich'09. We need these top-end guys pushing it in these kinds of non-Olympic races.
If you remain Olympic-centric you're going to miss a lot of the steps that an individual/team/country needs to take to be successful.
Truth Sayer wrote:
The way I figure it is the best 5k/10k runners in the world are sticks. Even a bigger guy like Solinsky slimmed down quite a bit going from HS to college to Pros. That is the requirement. You need to be light. No exceptions to this when it comes to being in the top echelon of distance runners.
How can you say there are no exceptions to this when you just mentioned an exception (Solinksy)? He is 30-40 lbs heavier than some of the other runners that are SLOWER than him. Weight will not be Lukas' problem.
ironicalizer wrote:
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn wrote:Living in a world of absolutes is dangerous.
This is always true.
Living in a world without absolutes for fear of the inherent danger is for cowards.
I will NEVER cheat on my wife. I will NEVER abandon my kids. And I will NEVER quit on my team in the middle of the season.
90% for Tri, dudes a world-beater when healthy
Jagerbalmz wrote:
Seriously though- why not consider the steeple? At the US national level, it would probably be the easiest of the teams to make between the 1500 and 10,000. It seems like it is the ideal distance for him and one would certainly think that he is some athleticism from tri that would carry over. He was also a great XC runner and has a very impressive 2 mile pr, which are typically good steeple indicators.
Not to call steeple qualifying easy- it isn't by any means. The depth in the event in the US is a bit thinner though and no one could possibly fault Lukas for trying to maximize his chances to make a team coming off a near death experience and major surgery.
Good Point, I don't know why this isn't considered. He has good enough speed and rebuilding all that strength for the 5k or 10k. I think the steeple would be a great event for Lukas.
The Grow Up Messenger wrote:
ironicalizer wrote:This is always true.
Living in a world without absolutes for fear of the inherent danger is for cowards.
I will NEVER cheat on my wife. I will NEVER abandon my kids. And I will NEVER quit on my team in the middle of the season.
lol this isn't even what I meant. The guy hooks up with his friends' girlfriends. He's a scum bag.