Lee Harvey Oswald: Innocent or Guilty?

Lee Harvey Oswald was in the US Marines for 4 years and was trained using traditional Marine near-death methods by the to fight with his hands, knives, and batons, and to shoot his gun as a marksman and hit moving targets without a rifle scope in bad weather. The Marines train soldiers as to commando levels. All Marines are combat special forces rated. The Marines send each and every one of their restaurant cooks, fighter pilots, helicopter mechanics, IT technicians, accountants, etc. into combat patrols and missions. Lee Harvey Oswald murdered a Dallas cop and was capable of killing Kennedy and others with his bare hands or with guns.

Considered teaching wrote:

Vincent Bugliosi, former prominent prosicuting attorney,

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fiftysomething wrote:

a close analysis of the film shows that JFK's head snapped forward first - and more quickly than it moved back after the bullet hit his head.

his head was already dropped forward, his chin was almost on his chest after being hit by the first shot. so a shot to the back/top of the head could easily drive his head forward (and his head did move forward first) and the recoil could easily cause it to snap back

What film? The only correct source is my film! Repeat after me. "Back and to the left." "Back and to the left." " Back and to the left."

What about the mafia conspiracy?

Why would Ruby (a mafia connected thug) kill the guy who just killed one of the mafia's biggest enemies after he was caught?

You guys are idiots

Oswald was a trained Marine sniper and had the gun modified with a special scope making the shot very doable.

Kennedys car was turning when he was shot making the car very slow.

Oswald was obsessed with becoming famous and already had tried and failed to assassinate General Walker.

Oswald apparently had no exit strategy, or his ride didn't show up.

and nevermind the people running up the grassy knoll... you know, they never claimed shots were fired from there or anything.

Let's see, shots from the front-right (grassy knoll)... video of an entire body snapping back and to the left... hmmm

I have been on large game hunts, and I've seen head shots. The shot that killed Kennedy was from the front-right.

Oh, and let's add one more crucial element... who was Jackie protecting herself from when she married Onassis?

The simplest answer is that Oswald acted alone because he wanted to be a big man. Occam's razor folks[/quote]

If you think "Oswald acted alone" is the simplest answer you havn't studied the HIGH RESOLUTION video of the Zapruder film on Youtube carefully enough. The SIMPLEST answer is JACKIE KENNEDY pulls out a gun and shoots JFK in the head! Simple! I am sure you have heard of shot gun marriages, this is a shot gun DIVORCE!

Super Jay Five wrote:

The simplest answer is that Oswald acted alone because he wanted to be a big man. Occam's razor folks

If you think "Oswald acted alone" is the simplest answer you havn't studied the HIGH RESOLUTION video of the Zapruder film on Youtube carefully enough. The SIMPLEST answer is JACKIE KENNEDY pulls out a gun and shoots JFK in the head! Simple! I am sure you have heard of shot gun marriages, this is a shot gun DIVORCE![/quote]

I do appreciate this new addition to the conspiracy soup.

redux wrote:

What about the mafia conspiracy?

Why would Ruby (a mafia connected thug) kill the guy who just killed one of the mafia's biggest enemies after he was caught?

Ruby knew mob guys but there is no evidence he was well connected to a mob guy.

BUT, the conspiracy is that the mob got Oswald to kill JFK and then Ruby killed Oswald because the mob knew he would blab.

oldfat guy wrote:

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luv2run wrote:

Super Jay Five wrote:

The simplest answer is that Oswald acted alone because he wanted to be a big man. Occam's razor folks

If you think "Oswald acted alone" is the simplest answer you havn't studied the HIGH RESOLUTION video of the Zapruder film on Youtube carefully enough. The SIMPLEST answer is JACKIE KENNEDY pulls out a gun and shoots JFK in the head! Simple! I am sure you have heard of shot gun marriages, this is a shot gun DIVORCE!

I do appreciate this new addition to the conspiracy soup.[/quote]

Thanks! My point is the JFK murder is not rocket science but more like tic-tac-toe. In other words it is relativly simple but they want you to THINK it is rocket science to destract you from what really happened. Look at the high resolution video on Youtube and watch Jackie pull out a gun and shoot JFK in the head. (If it did NOT happen that way report back to letsrun and tell us what DID happen!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqg2NxVTa0

the video that proves a conspiracy to kill jfk?

What about what happens before the head shot? Kennedy seems to put his hands to his throat and be in distress while his wife is still sitting back waving at people. Then he gets her attention and she leans in to check on him, and then the head shot comes. It makes it look like there was an earlier shot that was silenced.

In the autopsy photos, Kennedy was given a tracheotomy, which I don't understand. Maybe it is SOP or maybe there was another bullet there first, which would match the video.

goody2shoes wrote:

What about what happens before the head shot? Kennedy seems to put his hands to his throat and be in distress while his wife is still sitting back waving at people. Then he gets her attention and she leans in to check on him, and then the head shot comes. It makes it look like there was an earlier shot that was silenced.

In the autopsy photos, Kennedy was given a tracheotomy, which I don't understand. Maybe it is SOP or maybe there was another bullet there first, which would match the video.

Jackie killed JFK in much the same way a Black Widow spider kills it's mate after sex. She jabbed him in the leg with poison that imobilized him and he could not breathe. He reached for his neck and she reached over and pulled him close to her took out a gun and shot him in the head! Simple as that! Watch the high resolution video on Youtube.

Seriously, 99% probability Oswald was the killer the lone gunman. But there is a decent chance he had some help. Whether it was a small independent cabal or something deeper/broader (mafia, Russians/Cubans, big business, FBI/CIA, LBJ, or whatever) we'll never know. Nevertheless, there were a lot of weird coincidences.

Oswald getting the job at the Book Depositry just a few weeks in advance.

His trips to Russia and Mexico, plus making anti-government threats right and left but never really tracked by the authorities.

Being taken out by Jack Ruby before he could really be interrogated.

goody2shoes wrote:

What about what happens before the head shot? Kennedy seems to put his hands to his throat and be in distress while his wife is still sitting back waving at people. Then he gets her attention and she leans in to check on him, and then the head shot comes. It makes it look like there was an earlier shot that was silenced.

In the autopsy photos, Kennedy was given a tracheotomy, which I don't understand. Maybe it is SOP or maybe there was another bullet there first, which would match the video.

First shot misses

Second shot strikes back and up through the neck (then into the Connolly's leg)--this is the so called "magic bullet" but there was nothing magical about it.

Third shot strikes the head

luv2run wrote:

Third shot strikes the head

from the front... period.

Watch the ENTIRE body move to the back and to the right.

To everybody...

watch this at :56 and tell me that you honestly believe that the head shot came from behind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzJQE8LYrQ