I'm breaking my rule: Second Kip Litton Thread - Can someone please tell me what's up?

Where are the bikini pics of the wife?

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Where are the bikini pics of the wife?

Are there pictures of his wife changing her bikini on the course?

What foolishness KIP

KIP LITTON is an ahole

seriously... wrote:

Wasn't the point of one thread is to not have multiple threads of the same story...so now I have to spend twice as much time finding out there is nothing new to report.

Kip's been done to death, there's serial cheaters over on this thread that need dealing with:

faster_than_I_look wrote:

I can't help u on most of these races, but I ran a race that Kip Litton did. It was the Race for the Cure 5k in Detroit. He beat me, but not by much. He ran in the the low 17's and I was not far behind. He was just in front of me for the first mile but pulled away a bit after that. I could see him almost the entire way, except when we turned a couple corners, so he couldn't have cheated in this race. I recall it looked like he vomited very close to the finish.

That is funny! When you produce your name and time, which you won't, come back and talk to us. A person who was telling the truth would, and would want to, but you won't. What a nut!

10inch nails wrote:

faster_than_I_look wrote:

I can't help u on most of these races, but I ran a race that Kip Litton did. It was the Race for the Cure 5k in Detroit. He beat me, but not by much. He ran in the the low 17's and I was not far behind. He was just in front of me for the first mile but pulled away a bit after that. I could see him almost the entire way, except when we turned a couple corners, so he couldn't have cheated in this race. I recall it looked like he vomited very close to the finish.

That is funny! When you produce your name and time, which you won't, come back and talk to us. A person who was telling the truth would, and would want to, but you won't. What a nut!

My name is Jack but I'm not giving my last name because you will just rip me a new one. My time was 17:58. I saw Kip run almost the entire race. I don't know how you could say he didn't. If you think he cheated in a different race that's between you and him. All I'm saying is it didn't happen in this race.

His lovely wife deserves her own thread, a Lisa appreciation thread.

Imaginary friends wrote:

Who is sure he ran 17:17 5k dressed in a snow suit and after 4 mins (difference between gun and chip times) at 2010 baa 5k?

I ran that race and was Kip'd. I finished in just over 18 minutes and even I had a difficult time the first few hundred meters getting around those that started way further up the line than they should have. My gun / chip time was only 3 seconds.

4:04 is absolutely impossible. The next person I found to have a gun/chip time larger than that is a man that placed 4140 overall and ran 41:01 with a 45:12 gun time. That's 4:11. This guy would have been just behind Kip at the start line correct?

No way he passed the 3900 people it took for him to finish up with all the other 21 minute gun time finishers (roughly 260th)

Another one that's interesting is the Woman who finished 99th and had a gun / chip time of 2:40... Has this been discussed though...?

faster_than_I_look wrote:

10inch nails wrote:

That is funny! When you produce your name and time, which you won't, come back and talk to us. A person who was telling the truth would, and would want to, but you won't. What a nut!

My name is Jack but I'm not giving my last name because you will just rip me a new one. My time was 17:58. I saw Kip run almost the entire race. I don't know how you could say he didn't. If you think he cheated in a different race that's between you and him. All I'm saying is it didn't happen in this race.

So to clarify - you are now ~18 because you were 14 back in the day when you raced against him?

So is there a link to the results that you and this 17:58 18yo Jack fella are posting about.

I just jumped in and looked up this Detroit race for the cure - results here:

http://www.runmichigan.com/results/full.php/2009/05/30/detroit-race-for-the-cure.html

I am not in anyway supporting this person and their story. I just really hope this is actually the person they are claiming to be. It was called out earlier in the thread that somebody might have been pretending to be somebody else and I want to reiterate that it is one thing to be anonymous, but it is despicable to pretend to be someone else and even worse to put words in their mouths.

If it is him or not, it doesn't matter. What he doesn't realize is that nobody said that he never completed a 5k race or even a marathon for that fact. But instead that he cheated at many as the evidence is beyond overwhelming.

Ask Jack about the Solstice 10k and see what kind of a response you get. Why doesn't he look at the photos and give his opinion on THAT race?

I mean he took the time to look at the thread, right? If he believes that he ran the entire Solstice 10k distance when he sees the starting photos coupled with his near finish area photo, I'll have to give him, Jack, NO credibility. The race director figured it out, why not everybody else as he's got the same evidence that we do.

If he says that he doesn't care about that race, then I could give 2 sh**ts about his race (and claims).

Woah woah, there. I want to make one thing clear - I am firmly in the camp that believes Kip cheated in multiple multiple races - including the one in question - based on plenty of evidence, from the missed mats, questionable get ups and starting tactics and lack of photos throughout the course.

With this particular race in question - I was only bringing to light the specific race that was mentioned by this poster as to "being there and seeing him from start to finish". Somebody else did this earlier and used a name of a finisher and was potentially not that person. I was curious about this instance and just wanted to reiterate to people that **might be** pretending to be others - that is not okay. If you want to troll/seriously defend Kip, then by all means do it, but do not use the name of a real finisher as your pretend person and pretend to use their words.

Well my name is Brian and I ran nearly the entire Boston Marathon with Kip a couple of years ago. Can't vouch for his other races, but he certainly didn't cheat at Boston the year everyone says he did.

brian here... wrote:

Well my name is Brian and I ran nearly the entire Boston Marathon with Kip a couple of years ago. Can't vouch for his other races, but he certainly didn't cheat at Boston the year everyone says he did.

My name is Jake and I ran Boston with Kip, too. We took turns driving from mat to mat, and helped each other make costume changes along the way. I can't say whether he cheated or not in other races, but I know he certainly cheated that year.

Ummm...you're way off dude, like waaaaaayyyy off. I'm not the guy who's pretending to do anything. He posted his first name (Jack?), not me and that can easily be verified. Sorry, but you've got the wrong poster whether you truly believe it or not. I am 100% certain that he cheated in many races and am not looking for verification or approval from anyone. Also I have no clue if Jack is the real person who ran that race or not and respectfully, I don't care. Look up the 2009 Solstice 10k on google. The photos speak volumes and of course he never contacted the race director back after being disqualified. Who does that?

So we have runners verifying that Kip runs 17:xx 5ks and 2:5x marathons and his family confirming he didn't have a bike or car and friends debunking some of the other accusations. It seems like this has gone from looking like slam dunk cheating to actually being almost no way that he could have cheated. I never thought I'd come to that conclusion! Game over. Thanks to all on both sides for wasting my time. I'm outta hear for the last time.

If you could kick Kip Litton in the balls without getting in trouble, Would you wanna do it? Probably.

No way could Kip Litton ever break 18 for a 5k. I don't even think he could break 19. Maybe sub19 on a really fast course.

The guy is an old fat toad and a sad, sad man.

AfterAllThis wrote:

So we have runners verifying that Kip runs 17:xx 5ks and 2:5x marathons and his family confirming he didn't have a bike or car and friends debunking some of the other accusations. It seems like this has gone from looking like slam dunk cheating to actually being almost no way that he could have cheated. I never thought I'd come to that conclusion! Game over. Thanks to all on both sides for wasting my time. I'm outta hear for the last time.

Yes you are totally correct, this thread is just full of "proof" that kip did not cheat. NOT.