Fastest avg time for 1st two marathon finishes- Eliud Kipchoge is the record holder at 2:04:47

I appreciate the statistic, but course selection has a huge role in determining this. Those who ran New York, Boston (except for extreme tailwinds), or a similar course are at a disadvantage. Ryan Hall, for example, would have a time in the 2:07s if you took just his London marathons and discounted the New York trials.

You gotta wonder what Kipchoge would have run if he never did track and went straight to the marathon.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Fastest Avg Time For 1st Two Marathons

Eliud Kipchoge 2:04:47.5 (2:05:30, 2:04:05)

Patrick Makau 2:05:01 (2:06:14, 2:04:48)

Moses Mosop 2:05:20/2:04:21.5* (2:03:06*, 2:05:37, 2:05:03)

Tilahun Regassa 2:05:32.5 (2:05:27/2:05:38)

Dennis Kimetto 2:05:33 (2:04:16, 2:06:50)

Ayale Abshero 2:05:40 (2:04:23, 2:06:57)

Wilson Chebet 2:05:49.5 (2:06:12/2:05:27)

Sammy Wanjiru 2:05:51.5 (2:06:39, 2:05:24)

Evans Rutto 2:06:04.5 (2:05:50, 2:06:19)

Wilson Kipsang 2:06:14.5 (2:07:13, 2:04:57)

Haile G. 2:06:27.5 (2:06:35, 2:06:20)

Gebre Gebremariam 2:08:07/2:06:29*(2:08:14, 2:04:54*, 2:08:00)

Sammy Kitwara 2:06:38 (2:05:54/2:07:22)

Makau's times don't make sense.

How is the average of 2:06:14 and 2:04:48 = 2:05:01?

Are his times supposed to be 2:05:14 and 2:04:48?

push it to the limit wrote:

You gotta wonder what Kipchoge would have run if he never did track and went straight to the marathon.

You gotta wonder what Kipchoge would run a marathon on a track?

Kipchoge is a beast! In less than 5 months after his first marathon, he runs a time that it took the great Haile 6yrs and at least 7 marathons to run! His half marathon debut of 59:25 is only second to Moses Mosop's 59:20 for the best half marathon debut ever. In my opinion, if Kipchoge gets in a great field within the next two years, with at least two of the following in-form athletes: G. Mutai, G. Kipsang, W. Kipsang, Dennis Kimetto, E. Mutai in great weather conditions, he will break the world record and possibly be the first to run 2:02.

Who is training Kipchoge, or is he self trained?

Is he using the same type of training as Kipsange?

Do they ever train together?

didn't he just have this opportunity?

Calgary wrote:

In my opinion, if Kipchoge gets in a great field within the next two years, with at least two of the following in-form athletes: G. Mutai, G. Kipsang, W. Kipsang, Dennis Kimetto, E. Mutai in great weather conditions, he will break the world record and possibly be the first to run 2:02.

NO MORE FREE RANDY wrote:

didn't he just have this opportunity?

Calgary wrote:

In my opinion, if Kipchoge gets in a great field within the next two years, with at least two of the following in-form athletes: G. Mutai, G. Kipsang, W. Kipsang, Dennis Kimetto, E. Mutai in great weather conditions, he will break the world record and possibly be the first to run 2:02.

In only his second marathon. Haile ran 2:06 in his second one.

The coach of Eliud Kipchoge is Patrick Sang, elder steeple runner.

He's not only the coach of Eliud, but also of the Olympics and World Champion Stephen Kiprotich, Ugandan living in the same camp with the Kenyans group (both are with the management of Global of Jos Hermens).

In the training group there are other top specialists, such as Emmanuel Mutai. Bernard Koech and Bernard Kipyego (also is some of them is in the management of Michel Boeting).

Patrick is the coach of several top athletes of track, too :

the most known are Brimin Kipruto and Conselsus Kipruto (steeple runners, the first Olympic Champion 2008 and World Champion 2007), and Nixon Chepseba (1500m in 3'29").

Renato, thanks much for that information.

Do you know if they use the same type of training as Kipsange, and is that now typical of Kenyan marathon runners?

What is the training of Kipsang?

Mush wrote:

NO MORE FREE RANDY wrote:

didn't he just have this opportunity?

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Berlin was Kipchoge's first competitive marathon. In his first marathon in Hamburg, he was a class act winning by a margin of more than a minute. In Berlin, he ran very impressively and very intelligently throughout and did not "die" when Kipsang took off. By improving his 2:05 PB by more than a minute in a span of less than six months, it indicates that he has the capacity to go faster by at least 30 secs. Wilson Kipsang is the only other marathoner who has improved by more than a minute his sub 2:06 PB in a span of less than 13 months. He took it down from 2:04:57(2010) to 2:03:42(2011) in Frankfurt.

In only his second marathon. Haile ran 2:06 in his second one.

I was talking about Kipchoge's 2:04:05. Haile's debut was 2:06:35 or thereabouts.

Would you do this for cross country times? Who cares, marathon times are so stupid. Course to course matters immensely and conditions are insanely important. Time matters zero, finishing place and who you beat matter 100%. #thereisnomarathonwr

Technically, Haile G's marathon debut was a 2:52 he ran when he was much, much younger.

Seyta wrote:

Makau's times don't make sense.

How is the average of 2:06:14 and 2:04:48 = 2:05:01?

Are his times supposed to be 2:05:14 and 2:04:48?

I think the following were wrong.

Patrick Makau's avg should be 02:05:31.

Sammy Wanjiru's avg should be 02:06:01.

Wilson Kipsang's avg should be 02:06:05.

Gebre Gebremariam's *avg should be 02:06:34.