Down goes the Dow

Racket wrote:... so a rando in line at your favorite takeout spot brags loudly about "getting ballots from the addicts under the bridge" to the tune of almost 1000. That definitely sounds ironclad and not like the most supreme amount of bullsh!t ever.

+1

Reading a really good book right now (actually listening to it, with my spouse), called "Calling Bull$hit: The Art of Skepticism in a data-driven world." A propos about much to do with nuthin'...

J. Hardy wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

That is too bad on the daughter-in-law, hope the sense comes back. My daughter noticed my son-in-law seasoning the food more during his illness. At this point do not know if there will be a carryover. I experienced some taste and digestive issues with chemotherapy. Most have dissipated after two years.

Thanks. The good news is that the foul taste and smell symptoms may be indicative of an ongoing recovery. Time will tell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/smell-loss-covid-parosmia/2020/11/04/08a24c26-1e05-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2jSGT1ISpnqcyqrfWUDa2AiJq90cWIXxC0rhhC1PUJmQRW51trM90hSck

Thanks I’ll forward to the family.

Holy smokes... you leftists really are completely deranged ... the entire lot of you.

Racket your invective surprises me. He showed me the ballots, and we talked for quite some time, while we ate on a nearby lawn. He was going from the river/bridge to a nearby park with a tent city. He told me when I asked that no ID was required, and that he was working for a D get out the vote organization.

I was fascinated. I readily admit to not knowing anything about US election law, and I found out only later that such activity is illegal. It did strike me as fishy, especially the consideration given for the vote.

This is my experience. You can question or disparage it all you want, I have no reason to lie, or to invent fantasies. I was merely giving some reasoning for why I think Biden will win and airlines will rise.

If you really are interested in truth, you should consider my testimony in light of my history in this thread, which is what you know about me. I speak only truth even when it does not favor me, like again today everything I hold is down save for TSLA, definitely not a good day.

I have no desire to make you believe me, my interest was airline prices, particularly UAL, which is up 3.5% atm. I posted nothing, anywhere, about my experience, in the abstract, because I am not trying to influence anyone’s thinking on the issue—I mentioned it only in relation to airline prices.

Idiot I just saw your post.

It surprises me to no end. I am floored. I haven’t known you for many years, but this is still shocking.

I would highly encourage anyone with first hand evidence of voter fraud to bring it to the appropriate authorities.

It would be a very important issue in this day and age and would do a lot to restore our trust in a lot of things including the integrity of the election, media, partisanship, and the claims they are making, whether or not they are grounded in reality.

I feel that it is a very important issue and how it is handled tells everything,

I have thought about it, but I don’t know his name, and honestly could not identify him now. All I know about him is that he claimed to have once worked at the take-out bbq place. I have no idea if the cash was an inducement, or a gift after-the-fact but never mentioned before. What I know now is that it is unlawful to possess the number of ballots that he appeared to possess.

That's valuable in and of itself since you say you saw the ballots. It's not that you have an ironclad case that would lead them to an arrest, it is just a lead. And a lead that might lead to further investigation and findings.

If it isn't worth their time I am sure they could make that determination and tell you.

Honestly, i think this issue in general in this country at this time is very important.

Also, B beat T here by something like 233,000 votes, a spread of 7.2%., quite a margin. I saw something on the news about ballot harvesting in Omar’s district, bit nothing is coming of it. The state is too small and the gulf too large to put effort into. From what I hear, R is having a hard enough time prosecuting actions they have already chosen to pursue.

Igy - do you think a 40,000 Dow is on the not-too-far horizon? Say 3 years?

You can't just show up to a group of homeless people with blank ballots. First of all, official ballots aren't exactly just laying around for anyone to pickup despite what a bunch Trump supporters holding on to the last shreds of hope their Dear Leader may still have a chance. They're carefully distributed to polling places or by mail upon request. Second, you have to be actually registered to vote and recorded via signature upon casting your ballot. Then, they have to be counted and verified by someone and then sent through a machine, again at an official polling place.

If you really believe that guy, a random guy bragging to a bunch of strangers about a hot topic issue then let me know for real. I'll have you know I own thousands of bridges and they're a great investment right, price can only go up. I also own the Eiffel Tower, but it's not for sale yet (holding out for higher price in the future).

C'mon Mas, seriously.

Btw that MN county. went overwhelmingly for B, 71.8 to 26.2%

Sally Vix wrote:

Igy - do you think a 40,000 Dow is on the not-too-far horizon? Say 3 years?

I just saw this after my post. Igy - would you agree with this ...

Maserati wrote:Idiot I just saw your post.

It surprises me to no end. I am floored. I haven’t known you for many years, but this is still shocking.

Something lost in translation, maybe... What’s shocking? Not quite sure what’s up.

wow, battling narratives. NYC schools reinstituting closings vs. the vaccine positive news.

One way to look at it is more sh!t with a heavy dose of optimism on the horizon. But just how forward looking are the markets?

Downturn into the close if that tells us anything.

I’m not going into particulars, other than to say that that day, he was mostly signing people up to vote. I would guess that their ballots were all sent to his place, or somewhere where he could get them, since nobody had a fixed address. I would also guess they were voted absentee.

Anybody can request a ballot here, registered or not. If a bunch of registered voter ballots go to one place, they can be executed and returned without any witness signature requirement. Unregistered ballots can also be signed by whomever. Nowhere along the chain of a mail-in vote are the identities of the voter or witness, if needed, verifiably established.

Not only that, but there was no ID requirement for in-person voting here—you just gave a name that they checked, and went in. I watched as incredulous voters asked about it. I know someone who checked the status of her ballot after having voted, only to find out that she had voted twice. Only when she called to set the record straight was the one already on record canceled.

https://www.sos.state.mn.us/elections-voting/other-ways-to-vote/vote-early-by-mail/

I knew I shouldn’t have mentioned this issue that inflames such passions.

Ah, reading the whole thread, I guess maybe you think I’m calling you a bull$hitter... not at all my intent. But I’m calling BS on the story you shared, and maybe surprised that you believe it. Perhaps it’s true, I don’t know. It doesn’t pass my own gut test, but my gut isn’t calibrated to US election details, so there you go...

And it really is a good book. The book nod wasn’t meant as a dig, just a convenient time to share.

I thought you were questioning my credibility, now I see you may have been questioning the truth of what the guy had to say.

He volunteered the info, and was quite proud to talk about it. He was not the kind to ever have made any real money, and he was very proud of his earnings.

Maserati wrote:

I thought you were questioning my credibility, now I see you may have been questioning the truth of what the guy had to say.

He volunteered the info, and was quite proud to talk about it. He was not the kind to ever have made any real money, and he was very proud of his earnings.

Did the interaction involve him ingratiating himself in the hope of receiving a free cup of coffee on you or other perk?

I mean, who knows if the ballots were real or not.