The actual K5 wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Hi, Igy!
When the troll moves on top of the bridge he is exposed as a loser.
Thanks for confirming what we all knew, Sonny Boy / wasp / Igy.
Wow are you dumb
The actual K5 wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Hi, Igy!
When the troll moves on top of the bridge he is exposed as a loser.
Thanks for confirming what we all knew, Sonny Boy / wasp / Igy.
Wow are you dumb
agip wrote:
Wow - this thing is a coiled spring. Buy buy buy.
All time highs and surging.
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
you're asking ME to make a prediction with a time on it? ME? heh. Won't do it.
But in theory, since emerging markets have gone up very little over 10 years they should have a very good future. Eventually. When whatever is holding them back stops holding them back.
But putting a time on a stock market prediction is a fool's game, right?
I do have a slight overweight on emerging markets tho...I don't want to miss their run when it comes.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
you're asking ME to make a prediction with a time on it? ME? heh. Won't do it.
But in theory, since emerging markets have gone up very little over 10 years they should have a very good future. Eventually. When whatever is holding them back stops holding them back.
But putting a time on a stock market prediction is a fool's game, right?
I do have a slight overweight on emerging markets tho...I don't want to miss their run when it comes.
They have done so poorly for so long. Why would anyone go that route when the American markets are going like gangbusters. I own a lot of mutual funds and ETFs and basically quit buying emerging markets 10 years ago.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/not%20a%20bull%20market.jpg?itok=N3nbHrR0
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/not%20a%20bull%20market.jpg?itok=N3nbHrR0
agreed...it has not been a bull market for a while now. But we are hitting all time highs. The market will break out to a new bull market at some point...now is as good a time as any.
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
you're asking ME to make a prediction with a time on it? ME? heh. Won't do it.
But in theory, since emerging markets have gone up very little over 10 years they should have a very good future. Eventually. When whatever is holding them back stops holding them back.
But putting a time on a stock market prediction is a fool's game, right?
I do have a slight overweight on emerging markets tho...I don't want to miss their run when it comes.
Irony Mann wrote:
The actual K5 wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
K5 detector wrote:
Hi, Igy!
When the troll moves on top of the bridge he is exposed as a loser.
Thanks for confirming what we all knew, Sonny Boy / wasp / Igy.
Wow are you dumb
Oh, the irony!
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
you're asking ME to make a prediction with a time on it? ME? heh. Won't do it.
But in theory, since emerging markets have gone up very little over 10 years they should have a very good future. Eventually. When whatever is holding them back stops holding them back.
But putting a time on a stock market prediction is a fool's game, right?
I do have a slight overweight on emerging markets tho...I don't want to miss their run when it comes.
They have done so poorly for so long. Why would anyone go that route when the American markets are going like gangbusters. I own a lot of mutual funds and ETFs and basically quit buying emerging markets 10 years ago.
well that's exactly why you *would* buy emerging markets. Because people have given up on them. Which means their prices might be lower than they should be. And when they start moving up again - as they inevitably will at some point - everyone like you who has ignored them will have to rush back in at ever higher prices.
The fundies are good...they have actual legit growing populations, economies growing at more than our 2%, growing middle classes, ability to use most of the tech our companies are able to use, can take advantage of low interest rates, etc.
When they do rise 25% in a year we'll look back at a time like this and ask ourselves 'why the heck did I not buy then?'
truth, Although they have made 3% per year for the last five years. It's not nothing. BUt underperformance, certainly.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I would think that after a year like this, the big guys would start locking in profits for the year and stall the whole thing out, especially with all the uncertainty and the threat of a recession looming.
Must be the expectation of a trade deal (or more likely, in lieu of that, loosening of further tarifs, etc). Or another rate cut?
I think it's just time doing its thing. The market was stalled out for a year and half. Earnings haven't been growing so that makes some sense...but really a market that goes nowhere for a year and a half is well a coiled spring and usually moves up after.
As for specifics...PMI numbers have started to move back up in emerging markets, brexit is not contagious and may be in an end state, the US consumer is fine and dandy, interest rates are very very low, analysts see earnigns starting to rise again pretty soon, current 3Q earnings reports are coming in better than expected (again), and probably the market is assuming trump will sign a trade deal with china because he needs some good news desperately. Before the election. Remember he is losing pretty badly in the head to head polls. Can't poll over 40-42 against anyone.
Agip, emerging markets have done so poorly for a number of years now. I have avoided almost all at all cost. Do you see them making a comeback anytime soon?
you're asking ME to make a prediction with a time on it? ME? heh. Won't do it.
But in theory, since emerging markets have gone up very little over 10 years they should have a very good future. Eventually. When whatever is holding them back stops holding them back.
But putting a time on a stock market prediction is a fool's game, right?
I do have a slight overweight on emerging markets tho...I don't want to miss their run when it comes.
They have done so poorly for so long. Why would anyone go that route when the American markets are going like gangbusters. I own a lot of mutual funds and ETFs and basically quit buying emerging markets 10 years ago.
well that's exactly why you *would* buy emerging markets. Because people have given up on them. Which means their prices might be lower than they should be. And when they start moving up again - as they inevitably will at some point - everyone like you who has ignored them will have to rush back in at ever higher prices.
The fundies are good...they have actual legit growing populations, economies growing at more than our 2%, growing middle classes, ability to use most of the tech our companies are able to use, can take advantage of low interest rates, etc.
When they do rise 25% in a year we'll look back at a time like this and ask ourselves 'why the heck did I not buy then?'
"When they do rise 25% in a year we'll look back at a time like this and ask ourselves 'why the heck did I not buy then?"
You could have said that five years ago. They have done nothing since then either. If you had bought into them you would have missed out on record highs.