- ?wejo wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:lulz wrote:
Well, the rumor was he tested positive for DHEA, which is classified as a steroid, albeit a completely worthless one for doping purposes.
and he did accept blame by blaming somebody else
testing
- ?wejo wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:lulz wrote:
Well, the rumor was he tested positive for DHEA, which is classified as a steroid, albeit a completely worthless one for doping purposes.
and he did accept blame by blaming somebody else
testing
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Four posts by four posters is indicative of the board sentiment as a whole?
They were the 1st 4 I found, so yes. My survey gives 4 out of 4
Do you think Gay was deliberately doping?
Lift some weights wrote:
Gay is not as big and muscular as you make him out to be. Unless you're a 130lbs distance runner. I met him earlier this season and his legs are actually small which make his gluts look bigger than they are. He does have big shoulders and arms compared to his lower body but overall gay is not THAT big! there's nothing about his muscularity which screams doping that's all I'm arguing. Don't go googling up pictures of him running because everyone looks bigger when they run especially wearing tight body suits. lol
Yep, he could be bigger. I would suggest he uses these two next years to really BUFF up, then come back n get SHREDDED. I know it's possible to perform clean. I have seen HUGE transformations in my BOX, so it can be done.
yeah, i long for the good ole days when sprinters walked around shirtless. everywhere. nothing to hide baby!
exthrower wrote:
Some of them are starting to wear shirts to hide the bulging muscles because it's a dead giveaway.
ukathleticscoach is almost as unhinged as "A Duck". Perhaps they're even the same person.
"I can't believe that anyone would think that steroids use has gone anywhere but down compared to the old days."
But then again, you can't add, either.
WIGAND = RACIST
That's what his camp has let slip out but I heard from a couple athletes that its a pretty strong anabolic steroid. When Tyson first started taking he even asked an athlete he is close to if he should take it because he wasn't sure it was really ok what this guy in Atlanta was giving him. This athlete said - "Don't take it!" but he ignored the advice and its cost him dearly.
also UK you said Gatlin is clean and not an intentional cheat. His story of massage therapist is BS so you know, all a cover concocted by his team that lead to Nike track second in command Lewellyn Starks and Nike getting sued by the therapist for he attack Starks put on him at nationals that year in Indy. Settlement by Nike was for about #2 million and yet Starks kept his job despite a public attack AND costing his company millions.
Who is Gatlin's coach now? A former doper, Dennis Mitchell. He was also coached when busted by Trevor Graham! Yet you cling to some misguided BS that Gatlin was and is clean. Give me a break.
'also UK you said Gatlin is clean and not an intentional cheat.'
I have never said anyone caught doping was clean and Gatlin was a 2 time cheat:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5220184&page=3
and one more thing:
UK Dopers:
Dwain Chambers
Linford Christie
Christine Ohuruogu
I'm not interested in excuses
Gay seems like the most stand up 100M sprinter in a long time. He doesn't show off, he always talks to reporters win or lose. He cried in London for fourth showing how much he wanted a medal. I don't think he would personally accept a medal in his own mind knowing it was tainted by doping.
Just my intuition, not because he's American. I could see Jeter, Merritt, etc. as knowingly dirty. I thought gay was part of the voluntary testing program? I have a lot of respect for him, and I will be extremely disappointed if he knowingly took PEDs.
[quote]Rainy Day wrote:
Gay seems like the most stand up 100M sprinter in a long time. He doesn't show off, he always talks to reporters win or lose. He cried in London for fourth showing how much he wanted a medal. I don't think he would personally accept a medal in his own mind knowing it was tainted by doping. '
I agree he seems like a nice guy although neither of us know him personally and even if you did, do you ever know someone 100%
Either way its irrelevant you need to draw some line as every one on the doping list has denied doping, at least at first. The line for me is failing a test or missing tests or some other evidence like in the MJ and Lance cases.
The current ban is insufficient and the number of recent tests shows antidoping is not working. At least by increasing the ban you would solve part of the problem, that of inadequate punishment it's a pro sport and the punishment is amateur.
.......and one more thing Tyson Gay you owe me £5 repay it and I may reconsider my view!
Rainy Day wrote:
Gay seems like the most stand up 100M sprinter in a long time. He doesn't show off, he always talks to reporters win or lose. He cried in London for fourth showing how much he wanted a medal. I don't think he would personally accept a medal in his own mind knowing it was tainted by doping.
Tyson was 100% focused on track. I recall an interview where he said he had no plan B in life, no post track and field aspirations and that he admired other track stars who were sensible about having a fall back plan. However he was quite forceful in the interview that that was not for him...track was all he had.
When you miss out on an Olympic medal by 1/100th of a second, you are pushing into your 30s and the Olympic dream is slipping away as you get older, I think an athlete with that sort of singular mindset is going to be more and more open to dancing on the line of what may be appropriate to put into his body. The problem with dancing on the line is that one may inadvertently end up crossing it. And that in a nutshell is what I think may have happened here.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
and one more thing:
UK Dopers:
Dwain Chambers
Linford Christie
Christine Ohuruogu
I'm not interested in excuses
I know you're not going to want to hear this, but it can be surprisingly easy to miss a couple of out of competition tests in the allotted window. This is because the authorities aren't stupid and when you miss one out of competition test you're immediately marked and are then hit with much more frequent tests for a while, in an effort to to try and see if you are doing something illegal.
Ohuruogu's crime in this case was being a scatterbrain.
Ohuruogu's crime in this case was being a scatterbrain.[/quote]
Or ducking and diving
I like to bet and you could get good odds on only changing your plans 3 times (and not informing the testers)
and the testers turning up on each of these occasions.
The last time she said the bus would not arrive in time to get to the testers, so she didn't bother even trying- last time I checked you could get a taxi pretty easy in this country
Dwain Chambers discussed ducking and diving in his book. You change you plans every time you know you are on
Anyway believe one believe them all - all 3,982 athletes on the IAAF doping list have an excuse and where inoccent.
lol you can tell from all these comments no one knows about cycling drugs or professional track athletes at the least. DHEA is used for joint support when you run an EPI cycle its good to take it. EPI is the pro hormone of choice and what the silver world female 100m medalist runs as well. Many of the endocrinologists in Houston provide this as well as other support supplements needed to run the cycle. IT helps your libido and kills lethargy its very good to combine the two. DHEA is not used for performance lol. I would think on a major track forum someone would know this already
A close source of mine told me that Gay was using this cream for his hip joint. The Dr had told Gay it would help with his joints. He won't give me anymore information but he claims that Gay was given a cream for his hip which turned out to have dhea. The Dr assured him it was food based and contained nothing synthetic. That's why he said that he was let down.
When you stall and stall.... it gives you time to come up with a really good excuse. I'm sure that Tyson will eventually have a great and well thought out response.
He's a doper wake up
* wrote:
A close source of mine told me that Gay was using this cream for his hip joint. The Dr had told Gay it would help with his joints. He won't give me anymore information but he claims that Gay was given a cream for his hip which turned out to have dhea. The Dr assured him it was food based and contained nothing synthetic. That's why he said that he was let down.
Nice try.
LoL wake up dude he needs joint support because hes on a massive amount of drugs. You cant do steroids without joint support,liver support and various other supplements that help. Tyson is the biggest doper alive maybe worse than Bolt. He is obsessed with being the fastest guy in the world dude you will never be the fastest guy give it up already.
* wrote:
A close source of mine told me that Gay was using this cream for his hip joint. The Dr had told Gay it would help with his joints. He won't give me anymore information but he claims that Gay was given a cream for his hip which turned out to have dhea. The Dr assured him it was food based and contained nothing synthetic. That's why he said that he was let down.
And being a knowledgeable professional athlete earning a high income who, like the rest of us, has been informed hundreds of times, he wouldn't have checked with USADA and/or WADA before using anything? And him being Tyson Gay they wouldn't have bent over backwards to help him identify the stuff as being OK or not?, give me a break. But he didn't, I wonder why?, no I don't, I know why, he's dirty just like all the others who have been caught.