any different? wrote:
Is his result really any different from his last 6+ years of WC/OG competition? Yes he got the silver, but Rudisha, Amos, and Kitum weren't in the race. He may be the 2013 WC Silver medalist, but he's still only the 5th or 6th best 800m runner in the world this year.
The beer and fish don't really care who wasn't there, he's got a WC medal.
oldlegs wrote:
There was no mistake-he did what made sense in the exact right spots, and ran a near perfect race. If he didn't move up at the bell he would have snookered himself. Yes, it was a touch fast but he relaxed all the way to 120 left. Maybe he exerted too much from 100m to 60m left, but what the hell, he thought he was clear. So he tied up a bit-the guy still got a silver.
Way To Go Nick--you rocked it. No frickin' regrets.
Exactly. Too many idiots here fretting over miniscule tactic changes. Aman was faster than Nick and probably would have taken the gold regardless of how Nick ran. Nick ran the best race he could have ran and deserves props for the silver.
Tactics aren't everything, Aman is a better 800 guy than Nick.
Crownie wrote:
He should now focus on breaking the beer mile WR to cap off an excellent season
I have an inside source that says Symmonds has already gone 4:52 earlier this summer, and they're waiting until now to release the video.
any different? wrote:
Is his result really any different from his last 6+ years of WC/OG competition? Yes he got the silver, but Rudisha, Amos, and Kitum weren't in the race. He may be the 2013 WC Silver medalist, but he's still only the 5th or 6th best 800m runner in the world this year.
I've been thinking about this kind of knock for the last week or so. It's been repeated several times about others for different events. It seems to me that a big part of being the best, and being the champ, is keeping healthy and actually getting there for the big ones. Symmonds did it; the others you mention didn't. So he's the second best, not fifth or sixth, after a great championship race. Pretty good.
any different? wrote:
Is his result really any different from his last 6+ years of WC/OG competition? Yes he got the silver, but Rudisha, Amos, and Kitum weren't in the race. He may be the 2013 WC Silver medalist, but he's still only the 5th or 6th best 800m runner in the world this year.
If we were to have a race with ONLY Symmonds, Kitum, Rudisha and Amos next week, who do you think would win?
They might have been better runners last year, but not this year. They are injured. It's hard to be the top guy in your field when you can't run the race.
Right now, Nick is the 2nd best 800 guy.
Now please stop the childish, mindless bashing. Nick ran a good race and won the US a medal. It is OK to just shut the hell up and let people enjoy it.
te wrote:
I've been thinking about this kind of knock for the last week or so. It's been repeated several times about others for different events. It seems to me that a big part of being the best, and being the champ, is keeping healthy and actually getting there for the big ones. Symmonds did it; the others you mention didn't. So he's the second best, not fifth or sixth, after a great championship race. Pretty good.
Props to Nick for the silver, he earned it and ran a hell of a race, and is rightly a WC silver medalist. Perspective is in the eye of the beholder (or fan in this case) though. I suppose if Kaliese Spencer DQ'd in the heats, Hejnova and Shakes-Drayton hit hurdles and fell, Demus got massive diarrhea and couldn't start the race, and then Muhammad ran a 55.5 to win the 400mH she'd be a medalist too, and would have rightly earned it. Many wouldn't consider the best womens 400m hurdler though, just the best that day under the unique circumstances. Same applies to Symmonds. Nature of T&F.
My feed cut out at 1:02 as they entered the backstretch and I only saw the last 120m on replay. Looked like Nick ran a near-perfect race to me and was just barely out-kicked. I don't see how you can knock his race tactics when he's running balls out, leading the race with 100m to go, gets nipped at the line and gets WC silver.
Citizen Runner wrote:
Is his result really any different from his last 6+ years of WC/OG competition? Yes he got the silver, but Rudisha, Amos, and Kitum weren't in the race. He may be the 2013 WC Silver medalist, but he's still only the 5th or 6th best 800m runner in the world this year.
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I don't want to hear any of this crap. Durability is part of the game. Nick is always there in the final. Amos and Kitum will never be consistent with the way they run and train. If you are too injured to get there, you don't count.
1st former-DIII collegian to medal at a world championship/olympics in T&F?
Hey, good one, you are now a detectable dope.
Edwin Moses? Did he medal in the WC's or OG's? He competed at DIII Morehouse.
PreLapaul wrote:
1st former-DIII collegian to medal at a world championship/olympics in T&F?
Not sure if the first, but Andrew Rock did in 2004/2005(400m, 4x400).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Rockcbrb wrote:
His mistake? Give us all a break!
NOBODY has ever believed in Nick Symmonds like he has believed in himself. The scornful criticism he has received here over the years is laughable.
He deserves only our praise.
+1,000,000,000
I can't comprehend how any American at least could not like or at least admire Symmonds. Geez.
Symmonds is one of the very good guys, and one of the smart ones. Not sure why some letsrun idiots don't like him, but deeply resentful adolescents who've accomplished nothing in life can be like that sometime.
He finally learned to race Internationally!!! Great change in tactics and didn't try to sit all the way in the back and out kick the kickers. Congrats to Nick.
Jealousy. Congratulations to Nick, a great race!
As I said in a previous thread, Aman was the man to beat and although I thought Soloman would get silver, I said Nick could get a medal if he raced to win. This is the first time in global competition where I've seen Nick race to win.
Soloman ran the first 200 ahaed of world record pace, the second 200 slowed down, but the damage was already done.
TrackCoach wrote:
Soloman ran the first 200 ahaed of world record pace, the second 200 slowed down, but the damage was already done.
Aman was actually leading at 200 (and was on Solomon's shoulder at 400). The pace didn't damage him at all. He was pretty badass today.
As for Symmonds, in all seriousness, how many track athletes have ever been healthy and able to compete for every national and world championship meet throughout their entire career? His consistency and durability is pretty amazing, I'm really happy to see him take the silver.
i kinda like running wrote:
Great race by Nick. Really went for it. Probably a little too fast on the opening lap, but it's hard to hate on the guy for such a ballsy race.
lol, I got pilloried for saying he lost it by going out too fast.
Gee, someone else, and even NICK thinks so too:
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251036-IAAF-World-Championships-Moscow-2013-Interviews-Races/video/719336-Nick-Symmonds-finally-gets-his-global-medal-in-800-at-Moscow-World-Champs-2013?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter