The Curious Case of Treniere Moser

Maybe. I think she should have secured a visa no matter what. Thats fair.

Did usatf offer to take her to Moscow? They take some extra sprinters don't they?

800 analyzer wrote:

They take some extra sprinters don't they?

For the relays.

David Payne got a call at the last minute to get on a plane and head to Osaka to replace Arnold in 2007.

I don't necessarily think it has to do with drugs...etc, but it does seem strange they waited so late till after the MRI to decide to tell USATF when they clearly knew the extent of the injury. In my opinion, she's 30 something I would of just finished and ran Worlds. I don't know how painful it is but she seems to have been doing a lot of training through it anyways why not just race? Imho. Maybe that was the plan and it was too painful, hence the wait. Either way it sucks for Treneire after such a great year and hard work

jerry fletcher wrote:

3. She hurt her hammy and had the ticket in place before getting the results of her MRI. She may have had a second reading done of the MRI which she did not hear about until after she arrived in Moscow.

this is not how MRIs work. as soon as you exit the tube, the images are ready to be reviewed. i have little doubt that saladbar had them email immediately to a sports doctor for review (and i highly doubt it was some random european one). if she really had a bad hamstring tear and had the MRI on monday, then she knew on monday about it. i'm a nobody -- not a professional runner on the eve of the world championships -- and i normally get mri reports within 24 hours.

she also didn't have the MRI in russia so it's pretty obvious (if you believe her story, which you shouldn't) that she flew to moscow knowing she couldn't race and then waited until thursday to inform usatf, which in and of itself is ridiculous.

Down goes Moser, down goes Moser, down goes Moser. Ok, thread over....

just because an athlete pulls out of a meet does not mean they wont or cant be tested, track athletes are subjected to be tested at any time without notice, drug testers can and have come to athletes houses past midnight with the athlete sound asleep, and the athlete probably thinking its a home invasion robber.

So, here's the sequence of events. Moser pulls out of Worlds. A poster, a real live poster, asserts that she refused a drug test. For this there was obviously zero evidence. Countless foolish people assert that it is a real possibility she "avoided" a drug test, and in any case the whole thing stinks. It now turns out she's hurt. NOP goes so far as to present an MRI. But that is now taken to be a sign that there's a cover up! All this craziness for someone who did not PR in the 800 (her best event over the last five years), who PRed by .47 in her main event, and who PRed by a good deal in an event she barely ran (and for which she had no specific training until this year). She got hurt. But this is Worlds so despite being hurt she wanted to run. Once she got here she realized that wasn't going to happen. I once showed up to a local meet wanting to run with a torn sartorius muscle. And this is Worlds, for a runner who through working five hours a day has resuscitated her career. This should be a story of never giving up. Instead, we have rampant speculation presented as probability or fact.

Yeah but she said she can still do easy running and wants to race in September lol. What a bunch of BS.

Yeah really because God forbid if a good runner was telling the truth and actually wasn't on peds!

OMG I mean US distance running sucked for so long and it was because our runners were lazy and unwilling to put the work in.

So now we're good and it's because of peds.

Good Lord some of you idiots are just so freaking stupid.

You go out and run slowly, gradually increasing your pace until you start feeling the hamstring injury. Then you start walking and move into a jog, and wait for the the slightest pain, then back off until you don't feel it. The exercise, although minimal, speeds up recovery. At 31, you are always hoping you are going to wake up the next morning and, voila, you're healed. Is this rational? No, but at 31, you cannot give up hope. You say publicly you are fine to convince yourself that tomorrow you will be OK. You take a NSAID every day.

I know what it's like. I went through this fantasy/routine for more than a year.

The image we see of Moser's hamstring looks like a contrast enhanced MRI.

I agree with most that this just doesn't sit right.

Had the events and minor details played out differently, there would be no alarm here. But because of the time line of events that the NOP has given when compared to tweets, race results, and other media, it just doesn't make sense.

I am sure no one wants to see anything happen to Moser, the NOP, and American distance running....well, maybe some people want to see the NOP go down.

Conspiracy Theory wrote

It took Edward Snowden 39 days to get a Russian visa even with the intervention of the country's president . . .

Well it is a good thing you know alot about the Snowden case. He applied for asylum not a travel visa. Little bit different me thinks.

Okay bro, you do realize that photo could be from ANYONE, right?

questions need to be asked wrote:

Being a certified physio and looking at the picture of the MRI posted on the NOP website, I can assure you that this is a massive ruptured hamstring. There is no way anybody could continue running, or even be able to jog with that type of injury. The person with a hamstring like that should be limping around on crutches.

Why is the hamstring photo like 64x64 pixels? I'm sure the scan is a massive resolution originally. Why shrink the file so drastically? Hmm...

it's funny on another thread someone posted how an article was coming and alsal's group new they were on the hot seat and doping down explaining the bad runs after running great early in the season. Moser dropping at the last minute screams look at me.

1. Have you guys never had a semi-strain or old injury scar flare that held you back at approx 98-99 % of going all out?

2. She's an athlete on TWO world class teams (USA & Nike). The sponsored part of such a thing can end any day, the national representation comes with no continous guarantees, so anyone in that position gotta grab the opportunity to get the Team photos on site and attend planed sponsor meetings at Worlds in Moscow for future career CV boost and PR etc.

3. Imagine you were selected by NASA to go into space as a civilian paid for by [insert big company name here]. A few days before your scheduled launch, while training, you come down with a hamstring injury. Do you call them from home telling them you're not coming at all, or do you go down to Florida anyway hoping for a miracle doc to fix you, ready to settle for maximized sideline atmosphere and memories if not?

I seriously strained my hamstring during my 10K PR run. I didn't realize anything it was anything more than minor soreness for a few days, and it was over a week before I began to understand how bad it was.

this one has potential...

Congratulations on taking the high road and pointing out the irrationality of the anti-NOP crowd. But don't expect it to change any minds. Too many people who post here just want Salazar's athletes to be dirty, and they'll take ANYTHING as evidence of doping. Run well? You're on the sauce. Run badly? Must have just come off the sauce. Race a lot? No one recovers that well, must be drugged up. Don't race enough? Must be hiding from the testers. Injured? Must be a lie. Actually post a photo of an MRI? It's too small, it's probably from someone else, what are they hiding anyway? I swear, some of these people could watch Moser take the frigging test and still swear the film was switched.

Official statements, websites, blogs, twitter, etc...I have not heard anything about drugs. From what I understand, TM has been tested 3xs in the last 60 days, which includes the official WADA pre competition test and she has not missed a test or dodged a test...where heck did the drugs issue come from?

This isn't about defending Treniere, it is about fairness for any athlete...why did someone post something that by all accounts is blantly fasle or at best, there is no evidence of?