Conte on Jamaican doping

Accurate.

if conte is so in the know ,

why hasnt he mentioned sarms .

even charlie francis admitted that the paradigm

shift seeing in short sprints due largely to sarms .

or the more potent hgh and sarm synergestic combo .

question why isnt this combo as potent for females .

just lack the nessary androgen receptors .

and why isnt it as enhancing as steroid/epo combo for

400m .just nothing complimented the energy systems and

lactic buildup reducing effects as epo ,even blood doping

with same hematocrit not as good as epo with same.

and still experts still dont know why .

conte entered his sports medicine career just following the regular protocols of the time. which most successful athletes used, DHEA, test, HGH and so on.

he put together a superior PED program and realized only when he was busted that authorities were actually interested in PEDs. if for the wrong reasons, ie to make a name as prosecutor...

now he's taken that stance, OK, so you are seriously and honestly interested in testing for PEDs? OK, conte joined the program to fight PEDs and to fight the various agencies that are cheating.

conte time and again has produced the goods, the data that stands the test of time. every athlete that contradicted him has proven to be a fraud.

ok - so now listen up - most of the carrib is on PEDs duh. 90%. countries dominate through PEDs - you don't suddenly get massive amounts of athletes dominating from one small gene pool that don't happen.

jamaica like the usa was always a good sprint country with a global champ every so often. but they never ever ever had the top 5 200m guys in the world at the same time (or close to).

previously the usa had the best PED programs, before that the canadians had a go, we all know the chinese women went from no where to thru the roof with PEDS, and so on and so fourth.

there is a very good chance bolt will be busted, but the powers that be want to protect him, big time, .... if bolt goes down, ... there will be little revenue in the sport and it could be that testing budgets will be required to exceed the total receipts at the gate!!!

put that in your pipe and smoke it track fans, and more importantly administrators.

timetoendthishalfarseparadigm.

Damn. I wanna know what you know!!

anyone, any nation dominating

answer is always peds

so geb bekele el g farah bolt froome

armstrong

its that simple

some people round here just don't get it

marijuologist wrote:

mistermano wrote:

didn' conte say under 10sec is doped

all these 9.8 and 9.8 guys are getting a few tenths drop from peds

i'm convinced of that

Conte is a proven idiot, liar and snake oil salesman and nothing he says has any credibility. Only fools listen to him.

Only fools live in their parents basement (for years) smoking pot all day, posting on LRC and getting chased by the golf course security for being a stoner on the greens.

If you're in the top 10% in the world at your discipline, you're using something.

just sayin wrote:

anyone, any nation dominating

answer is always peds

so geb bekele el g farah bolt froome

armstrong

its that simple

some people round here just don't get it

Unfortunately, it seems that superior talent selection may not be enough. We saw it with Greeks one decade ago. Drugs seem to be always involved in some way. For a long time, I have suspected the Cubans. Their numbers of Olympic medal winners are not likely, both due to their limited population size and diminutive physiques of the Cubanese population.

look at the deltoids and his low body fat

it obvious what goin on

they on sarms anabolics insulin hgh .... you name it

That photo is deceiving, because it appears to be stretched horizontally and exaggerates muscularity.

Even considering that, what the photo shows to me is not evidence of Bolt doping, so much as evidence of Lemaitre not doing ANY upper-body work.

It is possible to cleanly look like Bolt. Of course, to both look like Bolt and run 9.58 is not possible cleanly--but IMO, all the photo does is reinforce what Rodney Dangerfield's character Thornton Mellon said:

"If you want to look thin, you hang around with fat people!"

look the only two major new peds worth mentioning ,

that fits the timeline .

obviously sarms being the most important

and next the new growth factor that became

available igf-1

has to be this variant not others and pharmacy

grade and pretty hard to get your hands on

the poorest sprinters have to make do with sarms

or any older gerneration peds

then throw in hgh

then your bolts and blakes and gay throw in igf-1

and you have .

need to run growth factors with a strong androgen otherwise

useless ,showing that either undectable steroid or a sarm.

have wada finally brought that new test to fore

where can test for any steroid or sarm regardless

if know about it , basically anything that invokes

strong response in androgen receptor besides endogenous ones

and you have failed .

Sprintgeezer wrote:

That photo is deceiving, because it appears to be stretched horizontally and exaggerates muscularity.

Even considering that, what the photo shows to me is not evidence of Bolt doping, so much as evidence of Lemaitre not doing ANY upper-body work.

It is possible to cleanly look like Bolt. Of course, to both look like Bolt and run 9.58 is not possible cleanly--but IMO, all the photo does is reinforce what Rodney Dangerfield's character Thornton Mellon said:

"If you want to look thin, you hang around with fat people!"

Question, why is Bolt so huge in his upper body? And why is Powell? They both ran faster when slimmer...

No they are just being used on a level playing field. None of this is new news.

To compete at a world class level in the sprints drugs are involved.

This is no different than cycling and having to dope just to stay competitive.

* wrote:

Conte's athletes really didn't get caught.

There were no positive tests for Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

Dwain Chamber's initially passed all of his tests.

But after the BALCO raid, they got ahold of Conte's THG (the clear) that was a designer steroid which didn't show up in tests before.

They went back and re-tested a sample they had on Chambers and it showed positive for THG, which they could now test for.

Conte's lab was proof that they could create an undetectable performance enhancing drug.

Their issue was being loose with paper work and having insiders turn them in.

I see no reason to think that there aren't new undetectable drugs that enhance performance.

The cheaters will always be ahead of the testers.

This is just somebody who doesn't fully understand doping who buys the Conte spin.

Conte didn't make an undetectable steroid, his people altered one in use that the then woeful drug testing process were not testing for.

As it happens it was a pretty shit steroid, hence his need for conventional doping and calendars to avoid the woeful and predictable drug testing in American Athletics and the almost non-existent drug testing in Baseball. I mean in Baseball there was a rule you had to fail 5 doping tests for a 5 month ban and they weren't even testing that frequently.

Conte wasn't a genius or particularly in the know, nor is he particularly well informed. His methods or any he could devise is unlikely say to consistently beat the dope testing now. So he makes his money off giving vague but specific sounding tid-bits to his US Twitter audience and in particular against competitive countries to the US using nothing more than Regular google searches.

He has not predicted anything specifically of consequence. Saying everything that is successful is dirty is his technique, then when any bad news comes he says I saw this coming.

Le tour wrote:

Question, why is Bolt so huge in his upper body? And why is Powell? They both ran faster when slimmer...

They have these things called weights... that they lift.

man, it's crazy to read how many of you are condemning these sprinters as if you all are on a higher moral ground. How many of you can say that you have never cheated, lied, deceived, step on someone to get ahead and more at some point in your lives? I would bet my life that if given a chance at fame and money, most of you so called "holy rollers" would compromise the moral you pretend you have. It is so funny how you are so quick to call them every derogatory name in the book for whatever bias you have against them, but will most likely swear up and down that you favourite athlete (in what ever sports that person participates in)is clean. If you don't have skeletons in your closet then raise you hands. Most of you can't. this goes out to he "moral Police," you all are a bunch of bitch-ass clowns!

Whaaat? wrote:

Le tour wrote:

Question, why is Bolt so huge in his upper body? And why is Powell? They both ran faster when slimmer...

They have these things called weights... that they lift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2q6fdZzDmE

lol

Remember Whaaat, this is primarily a distance forum!

Blackdot--

Have you ever considered that one doesn't have to be on any moral "higher" ground in order to criticize validly?

An act that would be morally repugnant does not become any less so, as a result of who is making the accusation, because we judge that act not according to the moral position occupied by the messenger, but according to that held by both us as individuals, and by society as a whole.

For example, a first drunk driver calling out and disparaging a second drunk driver does not make the second drunk driver's conduct any less objectionable.

EVEN IF critics of doping sprinters ARE "a bunch of bitch-azz clowns", that doesn't make the conduct of doping any less objectionable, and certainly does nothing to elevate the character of the doper.

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