Good kush makes a good point, Dejen has a blistering kick, really amazing. BUT (like Pee Wee Herman said, we all have a big BUT), DG got the OLY 5000 silver instead of gold because he was not in position for a clean run at gold coming off the final turn.
Thus, all things being sort of equal, I think Mo will win the 10K in Moscow. He's gonna simply run SMARTER than anyone else, and get to the line first.
12:46 man and Olympic Silver Medalist Dejen Gebremeskal NOT running the 5000, only 10k in Moscow
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Can we please stop making reference to Bekele's 5k and 10k world records? They're fake. He was so obviously on EPO during those races. Bekele isn't even good enough to make a team now that there's better drug testing.
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c'mon now wrote:
And how do you know? Dude ran 26:51 front running the last 7km. I honestly feel he's in better shape than mo at the 10,000m. A lot of you guys are reading way too much into mo's 1500m. Just because you ran a fast time at the 1500m doesn't mean you're guarenteed a win in the 10,000m. I'll make sure to pull this thread up when the upset happens.
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Montesquieu wrote:
Please do so, but if you do, try to spell the word 'guaranteed' correctly. Thanks. But on the substantive point, of course DG has a chance, but given that he is not running the 5, he must realize his chance is in a fast 10, not a slow 10 with a fast whatever. And this will help Ritz's chances.
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gebremeskel clearly slowed down the last ten meters as well. still won't be enough against 3:28.8 man farah.
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Before you laugh, try to eradicate your ignorance. Apart from the fact that Ritz was sixth in 2009, beating four sub 27 guys, what I principally meant is that it will help his chances to run fast and to become one of the top three fastest Americans ever. I also think he can get a high finish.
The New RCS wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:
Please do so, but if you do, try to spell the word 'guaranteed' correctly. Thanks. But on the substantive point, of course DG has a chance, but given that he is not running the 5, he must realize his chance is in a fast 10, not a slow 10 with a fast whatever. And this will help Ritz's chances.
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But let me put it this way, how could a guy who's run 8:11, 12:56, 60 flat, and 2:07:47 not have a chance?
The New RCS wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:
Please do so, but if you do, try to spell the word 'guaranteed' correctly. Thanks. But on the substantive point, of course DG has a chance, but given that he is not running the 5, he must realize his chance is in a fast 10, not a slow 10 with a fast whatever. And this will help Ritz's chances.
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Montesquieu wrote:
But let me put it this way, how could a guy who's run 8:11, 12:56, 60 flat, and 2:07:47 not have a chance?
The same way a guy who has run 12:37 and 26:17 has no chance. It's not about what you've run in the past. It's about what shape you are currently in. Has Ritz shown ANY sign that he's in good shape this year? -
Absolutely!!
kdkkd wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:
But let me put it this way, how could a guy who's run 8:11, 12:56, 60 flat, and 2:07:47 not have a chance?
The same way a guy who has run 12:37 and 26:17 has no chance. It's not about what you've run in the past. It's about what shape you are currently in. Has Ritz shown ANY sign that he's in good shape this year? -
Didn't Rupp stomp him in a 7:4x 3000? I'd hardly call that showing a sign of fitness.
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13:09 at Pre and beating Derrick and True at Nationals are the requisite signs. But besides that, actually watch the Pre 5000, and if you're not impressed, there's little I can say.
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Didn't Rupp stomp him in a 7:4x 3000? I'd hardly call that showing a sign of fitness. -
Montesquieu wrote:
13:09 at Pre and beating Derrick and True at Nationals are the requisite signs. But besides that, actually watch the Pre 5000, and if you're not impressed, there's little I can say.
Are you actually able to cite Ritz beating Derrick and True as evidence that Ritz has a chance against the top Africans, all while keeping a straight face?
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Bad Wigins wrote:
Hey, that's pretty good, when was that? Wait, I remember, 2011. Never mind.
Mo could not run a sub-27 this year on a downhill course with a 4 m/s tailwind.
idiot
to run 3'28 with 400 ability of 50 seconds at BEST indicates HUGE endurance
the fact that you insist Mo has sub par endurance simply because he hasn't run a paced 10k (tell me, how often are those put on? idiot) is laughable
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Actually both the Kenyans and Ethiopians are making better calls this year.
ETH keeping the stars fresh, spreading out the talent. Kenya not overdoing the racing.
KB should be in reserve at 5000. That leaves it flexible depending on how his sharpening goes. If he gets rolling going into the meet, he's a threat.
So now you look for faster races at both distances. Pace will be pushed and an attempt to gap Farah early if he lags. Then send someone fresh against Farah at 5000m. I'm predicting 26:45/12:45 for the gold. Otherwise a much longer, tougher close. It may actually end up like the Kenyans and Ethiopians are working together but reality, similar best strategy to beat Farah.
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