Carmelita Jeter Walks Out of Monaco Press Conference after Doping Question

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Believe what? You're not being very specific. Yes, I believe what I wrote, but there are a number of concepts there.

Exactly what do you disagree with and what is your opinion on that matter? That's how grownups discuss something.

TLW wrote:

I've said it countless times before. Our sport is a dope ridden joke at the elite level. This is just another glimpse into how much of a joke it is at that level.

I'm of the innocent until proven guilty camp, support the IAAF and WADA, they appear to have been doing a great job this year.

For me...I just don't want to doubt everyone and be that jaded, and cynical, and negative -- if so -- why follow the sport???

BUT, if the freaking IAAF, in their home town, near their home offices, can't during a week of their drug bust announcements CAN'T get the athletes ready to handle something as easy as this and spin the questions into promoting the greet meeting ahead -- well the EPIC FAIL of the IAAF.

Did they really think that no journalist was going to ask any question on the weeks events?

Other athletes have handled these questions easily in the past.

This is what, Jeters 2ND time walking out of a press conference?

She gets paid to do this job. She gets paid to travel, and stay in a nice hotel, and fed well, and treated well, and nice gifts and fetes along the way...and she acts like her ish doesn't stink...in front of the press???

She looks bad for the sport. Pathetic.

I suggest everyone post negatively about her on twitter with links to the walkout video.

i wonder if the fans would just walk out of her race...

would she get her money running in an empty stadium?

noone's post is absolute crap.

"I can't really fault the athletes for not wanting to talk about it"

Not WANTING to talk about it is entirely different from NOT TALKING ABOUT IT.

This press conference is about the latter, NOT the former.

"any question directed towards them about doping will carry an implicit accusation of doping

Bullcrap, eg. "What do you think about Tyson Gay's positive for DHEA?"...

...but even if it did, or if it contained even an explicit accusation of doping, so what? Answer honestly about yourself, and if you are clean, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

"Simply asking a generic question about doping doesn’t automatically illuminate the issue"

This might be true, and it might not be true. Whether it is true or not will never be known if the question isn't asked.

Your post and attitude are pure bullcrap, noone.

Monaco should drop her from the meet. She DOES have an obligation to meet organizers who are paying her to complete part of her job - a press conference.

She didn't have to answer the question, specifically.

How did she not think they were going to ask about doping?

Hill Stomper wrote:

Here is the giant obvious fact about human behavior: If cheating were truly rare and a cheater were caught and suspended or banned, then the remaining athletes would no doubt speak openly about how good it is to clear the immoral, unfair element out of the sport. They would reflect on how cheaters devalue the efforts of clean athletes and devalue the experience, money and attention of fans.

Instead they behave like this, and the beat goes on.

The first rule of dope club: There is no dope club

We'll know that we have turned the corner when athletes freely and openly discuss there distaste for doping and unclean competition in front of one another and in front of fans. This may happen soon, it may happen in awhile, and it may never happen.

+10.

Hill Stomper wrote:

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Believe what? You're not being very specific. Yes, I believe what I wrote, but there are a number of concepts there.

Exactly what do you disagree with and what is your opinion on that matter? That's how grownups discuss something.

There is no such thing as obvious human behavior. You made that up just like you made up the idea about how athletes would react depending on if doping was rare or not. That is in no way true or a certainty.

brb wrote:

i wonder if the fans would just walk out of her race...

would she get her money running in an empty stadium?

Picture this: Moscow 100m. The announcer introduces the field, (if they can still find 8 people with the standard)

The audience one and all puts a newspaper in front of their face. Or they turn around and face away. That would the biggest mfing wake up call the IAAF ever had.

A Duck - You can follow the sport. There's nothing wrong with following Track and Field. It's not about being jaded or negative.

It's about being realistic, something you seem to have trouble doing.

When you watch an NFL or an MLB game do you really believe you are watching clean athletes? It's the same for Track and Field.

When I sit down and watch professional, world/olympic level meets I know that 95% of them are on some form of banned or custom PED.

That is reality for professional sports.

Stop living in your fantasy 'awww shucks I trained real hard and won the gold medal sir' world. It's not reality in 2013.

Exactly my point. That is what she should have done and basically is all a journalist can, or should, expect. The question itself is hollow if you are expecting a hollow answer.

brb wrote:

i wonder if the fans would just walk out of her race...

would she get her money running in an empty stadium?

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Picture this: Moscow 100m. The announcer introduces the field, (if they can still find 8 people with the standard)

The audience one and all puts a newspaper in front of their face. Or they turn around and face away. That would the biggest mfing wake up call the IAAF ever had.

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and it would still cut it as the most influential "Event of the Year" LOL

TLW wrote:

A Duck - You can follow the sport. There's nothing wrong with following Track and Field. It's not about being jaded or negative.

It's about being realistic, something you seem to have trouble doing.

When you watch an NFL or an MLB game do you really believe you are watching clean athletes? It's the same for Track and Field.

When I sit down and watch professional, world/olympic level meets I know that 95% of them are on some form of banned or custom PED.

That is reality for professional sports.

Stop living in your fantasy 'awww shucks I trained real hard and won the gold medal sir' world. It's not reality in 2013.

thinking 95% of diamond league athletes are doped is exactly the flip side of what you are criticizing.

Really -- why do you disagree? Specifically. You don't think that there's a difference between athlete responses to doping if doping were rare vs. if everybody did it (basically present day)? Imagine yourself as a clean professional athlete making a living at your sport in a world where doping is extremely rare. How do you react to news of a peer's ban or suspension? Now imagine yourself as a dirty athlete in a world where nearly everyone dopes. How do you react to news of a peer's ban or suspension?

Yes, your basic disposition (personality, tendencies) would be a factor (if you're introverted, for example) as would your cultural training (if you come from a country where direct questions or comments about others are not encouraged, for example) but the general trend would absolutely follow my suggestion.

Despite individual differences there are general patterns to human behavior. It's a thing. It's my thing, actually.

Now let's hear why you disagree. Be specific so I know what the hell you're trying to say.

joho wrote:

Wasn't it Wejo that took a beating for asking doping questions once?

I understand why a journalist would ask such a question. But, really, what do they expect to get in return except for some corporate approved jargon.

1)I think Wejo did an awesome thing by asking that question last summer. Maybe it will open up the floodgates to the kind of uproar that we need.

2) Jeter walking away was a best case scenario for a question like that. Sometimes, when the status quo is busted, you need to apply a little pressure and see who cracks. Jeter cracked. It's not proof of wrongdoing but it's an additional piece in the puzzle.

Check Kara Goucher's comment on her Twitter about Tyson Gay's positive test. This is a clean athlete talking:

"I am heartbroken over the news of Tyson Gay. Always liked him. Keep cleaning up the sport USADA, there are many more cheats out there."

If more athletes were clean then more athletes would talk that way.

Jeter is definitely a drug cheat. Go look at her college times. She is over a second faster in both events than she was as a 23yo at the NCAA DII championships. Definitely questionable.

Down Goes Jeter? wrote:

ROID RAGE MUCH?

+1

You guys.....she is obviously clean, she is just protesting the racist USA and our Justice System

#Justice4Trayvon

"THANK YOU.....drops mic....fade to black (back?) with hoodie..."

cicc wrote:

Hill Stomper wrote:

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Believe what? You're not being very specific. Yes, I believe what I wrote, but there are a number of concepts there.

Exactly what do you disagree with and what is your opinion on that matter? That's how grownups discuss something.

There is no such thing as obvious human behavior. You made that up just like you made up the idea about how athletes would react depending on if doping was rare or not. That is in no way true or a certainty.

well said. These arbitrary statements about "normal" behavior are just not good arguments. They are always colored by the person who makes these statements experiences and aren't "normal" they are just that person's opinion. This by no means means that doping isn't rampant in track and field. It just means that using anyone's opinion on what a "normal" reaction to a question is a poor metric to judge whether or not someone is doping.