Confirmed: Tyson Gay admits positive test, out of worlds. "I put my trust in someone."

I don't think you understand. They can workout harder with EPO and recover faster from the workouts. Anabolic steroids increase your hematocrit. Both long distance runners and sprinters benefit from both.

gtgg wrote:

KANSAS wrote:

Even if his sprinters did use EPO, the benefits are negligible, because of the anaerobic nature of 100/200m sprinting.

Why would the benefits be negligible? What does the anaerobic nature of sprinting have to do with it?

100/200m sprinting depends primarily on your anaerobic system. EPO stimulates red blood cell formation which is beneficial to aerobic events.

KANSAS,

You have NO F*CKING CLUE what you are talking about.

Sincerely,

Exercise Physiologist and Endocrinologist, MD

Marion Jones tested positive for EPO.

KANSAS wrote:

gtgg wrote:

Why would the benefits be negligible? What does the anaerobic nature of sprinting have to do with it?

100/200m sprinting depends primarily on your anaerobic system. EPO stimulates red blood cell formation which is beneficial to aerobic events.

So sprinters don't need red blood cells?

Kansas, do you not understand how having more red blood cells would benefit a sprinter? Really?

KANSAS wrote:

gtgg wrote:

Why would the benefits be negligible? What does the anaerobic nature of sprinting have to do with it?

100/200m sprinting depends primarily on your anaerobic system. EPO stimulates red blood cell formation which is beneficial to aerobic events.

Kansas, I think you're trolling, but I'll explain it all very simply. EPO makes you faster because you can train harder, it doesn't just make you faster with no training. It helps you recover from workouts so you can run hard more often. THAT is why sprinters also benefit from it. They are able to lift more, do more intervals, etc.

Yeah so....I might just go ahead and stop watching track and field now. This is all getting ridiculous. Even if Tyson is really innocent, and he somehow took a banned substance mistakenly, it's just impossible to know who's doped and who's not these days. You never know who's going to get busted at any give time, and it's happening all the time. It just makes me lose in interest in even following the sport. Kinda like how you hear from so many people that NBA games are rigged. It seems completely plausible, so it makes games much less interesting.

I thought Tyson Gay seemed like such an honest guy. I never thought he'd test positive. I'm very jaded now. Any time a top athlete says they're clean, I can't believe them.

In my mind, the only way to make the sport interesting again is to legalize doping. Of course this a slippery slope, but it's the only way to level the playing field again.

EPO works on more than red blood cells.

Cancer patients who are given EPO following chemo/radiation have higher rates of cancer recurrence than those who receive no EPO. Basically it is fertilizer for cells.

No sprinters are using EPO alone or doing any kind of scientific studies on efficacy. So if you're on a cocktail of hormones and no one's ever really looked at EPO's benefit for sprinting performance, is it really helping? Or is it just a placebo -- you're training harder because you believe the EPO to be helping you.

So on a thread about Tyson Gay testing positive, we're all showing off our knowledge about EPO because someone made a comparison to Lagat's A sample being left out in the sun? Makes sense.

Fyodor Rojo wrote:

: "I don't have a sabotage story. ... I basically put my trust in someone and was let down."

"

Double talk? No sabotage... Going to take my punishment like a man.....but its really not my fault because im a trusting person and was let down...?

Taking your punishment like a man means the only person who let anyone down was YOU. pathetic punk loser.

What was it... something about a "sacrificial lamb?"

Not a great start or end for these two...

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1260165&page=0

Hope you're trolling because you sound really dumb right now.

I think the worst part is that we are deprived of the incredible race that would have been the Moscow 100m. Also that, whoever it was, someone close enough to him who he trust so strongly did him wrong and was not honest with him. Yes, he should have been more thorough, I do not deny that, but as an athlete, you ask questions, be it of a doctor, coach, ect., recieve answers, and expect they were accurate answers. That person not only let Tyson down, but the track community. We are a community making our own comeback in the athletic world, and events like this only hamper that.

Still holding on to that 'B' test!

wwb wrote:

I think the worst part is that we are deprived of the incredible race that would have been the Moscow 100m. Also that, whoever it was, someone close enough to him who he trust so strongly did him wrong and was not honest with him. Yes, he should have been more thorough, I do not deny that, but as an athlete, you ask questions, be it of a doctor, coach, ect., recieve answers, and expect they were accurate answers. That person not only let Tyson down, but the track community. We are a community making our own comeback in the athletic world, and events like this only hamper that.

Still holding on to that 'B' test!

If you're willing to be coached by a felon,

, then maybe you aren't the most discriminate of people.

'Also that, whoever it was, someone close enough to him who he trust so strongly did him wrong and was not honest with him. Yes, he should have been more thorough, I do not deny that, but as an athlete, you ask questions, be it of a doctor, coach, etc., receive answers, and expect they were accurate answers.'

So he says someone let him down and you take that as a fact. How gullible can people be!

'Still holding on to that 'B' test!'

He isn't, because he somehow knows it will be positive. How does he not know the first was a false positive. How does he know who 'let him down' If he was innocent how would he know he was not 'sabotaged'

How is this different from deny deny deny

Sure there has been a lot of high profile athletes that got caught in T&F, however what I found a little bit surprising that many sport fans that point about the state of this sport in is concerning doping are fans of sports that are probably ridden with drug abuse...