How many NCAA violations will be committed in the courting of Mary Cain?

what makes you think she'll run in the ncaa? It would offer little competition to someone who is already nearly the best in the nation.

I think it'll be irrelevant. I think at this point, Cain would likely be wasting her time at the NCAA level. There's simply no competition for her, unless she were to move up to the 5 or the 10.

I think, as others have already said, she'll wind up choosing a school for academic reasons (some have said Ivy League, I think Stanford could be in the offing because of its relative proximity to Portland), work as an assistant coach so she can train with the team, and take her cues from coach Salazar.

Just do what rupp did. pay the measly $6000 to get back into the NCAA and then train with salazar the whole time. Best of both worlds.

She's not in "HS season"

If she is running unattached or with a club then her coach doesn't need to be affiliated with the school.

Look at what was going on with Arcadia this track season. The runners had the choice to either run with with their HS under their HS Track Coach or run for Jim O'Brien in O'Briens Army (track club). It's to my understanding that O'Brien wasn't officially coaching track.

As long as she's not running under her HS then she is fine.

The only actual HS race she ran after Salazar started coaching her is NXN, but that was considered a club race.

NCAA rules do not allow any coaching "

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Total BS. So Al sends an e-mail to Dad who reads it over the phone. Big Deal.

As far as her schedule goes that's determined before the season starts.Univ. Coach has nothing to say about it. No sweat.

Ummmm wrote:

She's not in "HS season"

If she is running unattached or with a club then her coach doesn't need to be affiliated with the school.

Look at what was going on with Arcadia this track season. The runners had the choice to either run with with their HS under their HS Track Coach or run for Jim O'Brien in O'Briens Army (track club). It's to my understanding that O'Brien wasn't officially coaching track.

As long as she's not running under her HS then she is fine.

The only actual HS race she ran after Salazar started coaching her is NXN, but that was considered a club race.

At the college level they have more strict rules about who is coaching who. I know they have the whole deal worked out while in high school. But NCAA is very strict about who can coach athletes while they are competing at the D1 level.

But NCAA coaches have egos. And if Salazar was just coaching one athlete it would look weird for Mary to be doing completely different workouts than all her teammates. One might say well they could all do Salazar's workouts, but then that would deem that schools distance coach pointless and although Salazar may be a superior coach, speaking from a college coaches perspective, there is no way in hell I would sit back and let someone else coach all of my kids.

I can tell you right now, no questions asked, if Mary wants to commit she is in like (Ray) Flynn.

All she has to do is tell the HC she will run CC and IT NCAA's.

Bart Jr wrote:

NCAA rules do not allow any coaching "

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Total BS. So Al sends an e-mail to Dad who reads it over the phone. Big Deal.

As far as her schedule goes that's determined before the season starts.Univ. Coach has nothing to say about it. No sweat.

if the student athlete does not want to follow the universities coach's schedule and train with the team, the coach does not have to let that athlete on the team, and salazar has no say in it.

if one does not want to be on the team all the way, they should not be on the team at all.

cain would be better off just turning professional, rather than being separate from the team and just showing up for races which would create bad vibes with teammates.

Bart Jr wrote:

NCAA rules do not allow any coaching "

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Total BS. So Al sends an e-mail to Dad who reads it over the phone. Big Deal.

As far as her schedule goes that's determined before the season starts.Univ. Coach has nothing to say about it. No sweat.

if the student athlete does not want to follow the universities coach's schedule and train with the team, the coach does not have to let that athlete on the team, and salazar has no say in it.

if one does not want to be on the team all the way, they should not be on the team at all.

cain would be better off just turning professional, rather than being separate from the team and just showing up for races which would create bad vibes with teammates.

Not any more than when Rupp went pro and then somehow magically became eligible again.

Why does this stuff even matter? Mary is great. This thread will be obsolete at the World Championships.

[quote]Brianruns10 wrote:

I think it'll be irrelevant. I think at this point, Cain would likely be wasting her time at the NCAA level. There's simply no competition for her, unless she were to move up to the 5 or the 10.

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She can compete against the clock, while benefitting from being a part of a team. Did Babe Ruth only play against the top pitchers or did he try to play every game? Every game, and the fans and his team-mates loved him. He made the game great by his prescence and performance.

"The time you won your town the race"......

nowadays replaced with: "The time you won yourself the race."

Not good for the sport or sports in general.

How many NCAA winners made WC team?

And she still has another year of high school.

She will not waste her time. I reckon if she keeps going this way she will have made the value of a 5yr ride to Stanford/Harvard etc ~$250k by the time she graduates from HS.

University would be a distraction now. Running is her job.

"University would be a distraction now. Running is her job."

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No. No.

Boys and Girls talk about putting the cart before the horse... It is story time... I grew up in So Cal went to HS with a girl that Swam for Industry she was the Mary Cain of Swimming... Times were right up there of course this was a long time ago... Senior year.... BOOM PREGNANT!!! Last time I saw her on Facebook she looked to be about 250 5 kids living in some place like Turlock Ca.So Anything can happen...

University would be a distraction now. Running is her job.

for how long? nobody can know. she'll go to college. she isn't dumb enough to not go to college. whether she does NCAA or not is another story.

and what if she gets hurt really badly in a few years? she won't have anything to do.

and what about in 15 years when she's done running? gonna need a job

If she was a Kenyan and 24, there would be no problems at all...

and what about in 15 years when she's done running? gonna need a job

she can take 1-2 classes/semester. It is not imperative she follow the "4yrs and out" mode.

Its a lot of work. So pile that on top of fulltime running? Skewed priorities.