I know a freshman who has run around 4:20 and 1:55. This kid is running about 20 miles a week and producing these times. How talented is someone that can do this? What would be a normal progression for an athlete of this caliber and with this background?
I forgot to add that the only running he does on weekends is when there are meets.
What other exercise does he get besides running?
Some soccer but nothing serious.
He's faster than SebCo at that age, but as Jerry McGuire says - some pop and some don't.
talent? wrote:
Some soccer but nothing serious.
Obviously it's serious enough
So many factors but 4:20 as a freshman should translate into 4:00 to 4:05 as a senior.
Steve Magness was, IIRC, 4:19 as a freshman for example.
TLW wrote:
So many factors but 4:20 as a freshman should translate into 4:00 to 4:05 as a senior.
Steve Magness was, IIRC, 4:19 as a freshman for example.
Most 4:20 freshmen don't reach 4:00 to 4:05. Maybe 4:10.
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A 14/15yo can't run a 4.20 mile on no training.
fgrgfrfsreafecedvc wrote:
Most 4:20 freshmen don't reach 4:00 to 4:05. Maybe 4:10.
Guaranteed sub 4:10 if motivation and training increase.
If motivated, trained properly sub 4:05 is in reach.
Like I said, so many factors, but talent to run 4:05 or better is there.
Thanks for the input. I just wanted to get some other people's opinions about what is in reach for someone like that. He does it is just that it is not that much and he is pretty raw. I feel there are a lot of people who run fast as freshman but most of them are there because they are ahead of the game training wise. He really doesn't do much more than an average freshman on any team would do. He just goes a hell of a lot faster than most.
He may or may not pan out, too many variables.
I will not hesitate one bit to say that this is a very unique talent. He has what I like to call: genetic freakiness. If he has the commitment to match his genetic ability, he will be one of the top high schoolers in the country by his senior year.
Questions that will tell all:
Does he have the fire? The fierce competitive drive?
Does he have passion for improvement?
Does he dream big?
Does he absolutely love and enjoy what he does?
Talent alone makes it possible, the above make it happen.
Cheers
Is he a 13 yo freshman like Ryun, or a 16-17 yo like LV or Ches?
Which one is he?
Freshman list of top 1600m times in nation this year.
http://www.milesplit.com/rankings/2013/outdoor/hs/m/1600m?cv=&co=2016&l=0&m=50&cn=&r=usa
None of the kids on this last match the 800m time given.
Some Brit aged 17 did 4.01 (for the mile) of 25 miles per week.