Either way you look at it the 5k could be the race of the champs. Mo, Alimarew, Geb, Soi just to name a few. I think Jeilan will be in good shape too. Not to mention Gebremeskal!
Either way you look at it the 5k could be the race of the champs. Mo, Alimarew, Geb, Soi just to name a few. I think Jeilan will be in good shape too. Not to mention Gebremeskal!
Between, Gebremariam, Alimarew, Jeilan, Demlash, Gebremeskal, Gebriwhet, KB, KB Jr. and Merga, it will be interesting to see who's in the 5K/10K. None of these guys are dominant and are only separated by a couple of seconds. Also, things are so wide open, could we see one of the road guys like Geb and Tsegay see a 10K track opportunity? A 2:04 marathoner should be able to run a low 27:00 track 10K.
Alamirew 53.5 last 400
Was he far behind Gebrhiwet at the bell? Saw live and thought BBC had it in 54 last lap and can't find video
Gebrhiwet looked a bit tired in this race to me
Mo is still the one to beat in Moscow
CD is going to be the one to beat in Moscow. Wait and see. He will sit in the back for the first half of the race, then make his way to the front of the pack and drop everyone with a mile to go. He will cruise comfortably with a 56 second last lap after drawing the life-pulse out of the rest of the field.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Hah! wrote:Because a pair of big ones Alamigrew.
Don't count Hagos out just Gebhri-yet.
Well if he's still a Gebhri-threat, that'll give Yennew something to Alamichew on.
ventolin^3 wrote:
7'22.9
( think komen of 3'29/12'39 shape simultaneously - they are currently just slightly inferior versions of komen )
I give them 7:25 at best.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Gebhriwet showed he is beatable
Once Mo hits top form nobody has showed the ability to beat him in Moscow
I would beg to differ. The nobody your're leaving out is Rupp.
'7'22.9'
No chance. Slighlty inferior? Komen would piss all over them, and Mo too for that matter
If the pace is quick, Mo will likely be Far-ah off. The youngsters can run. Though Alamirew ain't Ye-new, he's been here for years. Well, maybe three. And while Hagos is still a little Gebrih-wet behind the ears, this past year he's bested most of his peers. And if the pace is a little bland, like at Pre, Edwin might infuse a little Soi sauce to flavor his victory.
Rupp and Bahrain's Rop will confuse the announcers.
It's anybody's race on the day.
observationalist wrote:
And while Hagos is still a little Gebrih-wet behind the ears, this past year he's bested most of his peers.
You, sir, have won this thread. +5
ukathleticscoach wrote:
'7'22.9'
No chance. Slighlty inferior? Komen would piss all over them, and Mo too for that matter
you clearly don't have a clue how good these youngsters are
didn't you learn anything from 12'46 with a 54 finish ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEtHwH-Phcthat's a 54.5 finish running wide in lane 1 all of last lap & on lane 2 line towards end of last curve - ~ 6m extra distance run - that's more a 53.6 finish if he'd run inner part of lane 1 & 12'46.0
komen was in 7'20 shape this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92LxOUK6WKkhe coud only manage a 58.3 finish in a 12'45
TrackCoach wrote:
Between, Gebremariam, Alimarew, Jeilan, Demlash, Gebremeskal, Gebriwhet, KB, KB Jr. and Merga, it will be interesting to see who's in the 5K/10K. None of these guys are dominant and are only separated by a couple of seconds. Also, things are so wide open, could we see one of the road guys like Geb and Tsegay see a 10K track opportunity? A 2:04 marathoner should be able to run a low 27:00 track 10K.
Mo Farah will like this. Even for Gebrhiwet and Alamirew, selection is not guaranteed, so they'll likely have to go faster again before Moscow. There's a good chance that, just like last year, whoever makes the Ethiopian team has to peak before the world championships. Gebrhiwet's move mid-race to catch up with the pace makers was a clear sign of that, he was desperate for a fast time, because he cannot be sure of selection yet. It should make the season up to Moscow pretty interesting though..
Even without WC selection, it's worth learning to spell their names, by the way. I think these two will be with us for some time.
I don't think the marathoners will be interested in the 10k, because it will very likely be won on the last lap, where they don't stand a chance.
recall they failed at London. Do you know why?
think (not about EPO this time) and try to analyze.
ventolin^3 wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:'7'22.9'
No chance. Slighlty inferior? Komen would piss all over them, and Mo too for that matter
you clearly don't have a clue how good these youngsters are
didn't you learn anything from 12'46 with a 54 finish ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEtHwH-Phcthat's a 54.5 finish running wide in lane 1 all of last lap & on lane 2 line towards end of last curve - ~ 6m extra distance run - that's more a 53.6 finish if he'd run inner part of lane 1 & 12'46.0
komen was in 7'20 shape this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92LxOUK6WKkhe coud only manage a 58.3 finish in a 12'45
Komen was a 3:46 mile, 3:29 1500m guy and yet had the endurance to run under 8 two times. Not even El G could get close to the 3000m wr. Komen also injected a 58 with like 5 laps out. Haile was utterly broken in the end. Daniel Komen was a freak. Alamirew and Hagos have a lot to prove before indicating 7:23 ability.
eh ?
hagos was injured & the other ethiopian ran an inept tactical race, not leading at the bell as he shoud have
gunky wrote:Not even El G could get close to the 3000m wr
you clearly didn't see hicham's 3k
pacing was inept
he was even shooing on the pacer after 1k as pace was too slow & the idiot sped off to something like a 58s lap !
it was obvious the rubbish pacing had finished off hicham by 2k ( this is the soon to be 4'44wr holder ) & it's a miracle he hung onto 7'23
he'd have gone 7'20/7'21 that day with even-pacing to the bell
Komen also injected a 58 with like 5 laps out. Haile was utterly broken in the end
58 then 60 then 62 then 64
that's not exactly keeping it going very well either
Daniel Komen was a freak. Alamirew and Hagos have a lot to prove before indicating 7:23 ability.
i very much doubt that 4 lap stretch wouda broken them
Komin's race at Rieti is the best 3000m ever even pacing or not. El Guriro could perhaps have gone 7:22.
Alamarew ran impressively at Eugene but his race is
worth 7:27 (approx his PB) but Gebriweth looked tired
probably due to jet lag.
can your program include the effects of jet lag, for
example feed it with the number of hours and how
many days ago since you travelled?
yyy wrote:El Guriro could perhaps have gone 7:22
no
he split 4'53.6 in brussels which if it had been at even-pace shouda been a jog for him, seeing as he ran 4'44wr just 4/7 later
the fact that he coudn't continue at "jog" pace of 4'53.6 ( 7'20 pace ) for another 1km tells you that the 4'53.6 split had been rubbishly run & had damaged him excessively
Alamarew ran impressively at Eugene but his race is
worth 7:27 (approx his PB) but Gebriweth looked tired
probably due to jet lag
i suggest you go look up what iaaf points table give for his 7'27i, as that was clearly the previous best run of his life
they are skewed towards middle distances.
Vent, it's always funny when you talk about that race. - He was just spent at the end, listen the damn commentary. And you offer no point at all - 4:53 is the same split as Komen and 58s or even 57s laps on the way to this split are nothing out of the ordinary. 58,7 would be a perfect lap at pace to 4:53,6! Komen ran a 57 as first lap, later a 58,3. His pacing was like suididal to 1k - 2:25. You realize that's pace for ~ 7:16-7:17 ??
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