I used to cheer for Farah. Now, I can't wait for Moscow, where I hope to watch him get trounced by bekele at 10k and G-wet at 5k.
I used to cheer for Farah. Now, I can't wait for Moscow, where I hope to watch him get trounced by bekele at 10k and G-wet at 5k.
farah knows his body. running a 10k at near world record pace might not be the best idea in the world if you think you are lacking a bit in energy.
on the ducking charge: bekele is not the man to beat anyway.
farah must feel good about his speed. the 5k is the tougher challenge to win given the fields.
Thinking about, Kenenisa should now skip the 10,000 and just line for the 5,000.
Don't announce it. Don't enter it.
Just line up. Bandit the race.
Wouldn't Nike and Alberto much rather have Rupp win than Farah?
Farah winning gold wasn't part of the plan. They want Rupp to win and now Galen gets to beat Mo and get his confidence up.
How about this as an explanation - it may be a bit too way out there for you guys but maybe it's worth considering ..........
Just maybe he really has had a stomach virus. The sort that makes you ill for a day and leaves you wiped out for 3 or 4 and then resurfaces (as viruses do) when you get run down. As a consequence he missed training. The transatlantic flight this week didn't help. Two days before the big race, he's thinking he's not in good shape for a 10k (which will take a lot longer to recover from) but thinks he can handle the 5k (even though it's a tougher field).
If he was the pvussy you lot called him, wouldn't he have pulled out of the meet altogether?
chet wrote:
OK, so I hope Jordan was misquoted, because he surely knows that a 10,000m race is 25 laps...
But how is it that you "want to be at the top of your game," in racing Kenenisa Bekele, but it is OK if you are not at the "top of your game," if you are going 12.5 laps against Rupp, Lagat, Alamirew, Koech and Soi, to name just a few of the 5000m competitors Farah will be facing. Does Farah not respect the 5000m field, including his training partner, or is he afraid of Kenenisa, for some reason, or he doesn't want to give Kenenisa some psychological edge in advance of Moscow?
The only made-up psychological term here you should understand is that he's 'Afeared'
Why would a 10k take longer to recover from than a 5k? Can someone explain this?
jsjw wrote:
Why would a 10k take longer to recover from than a 5k? Can someone explain this?
It's a longer race, there is more trauma to the body.
boom. wrote:
jsjw wrote:Why would a 10k take longer to recover from than a 5k? Can someone explain this?
It's a longer race, there is more trauma to the body.
How do you know there's more trauma?
Have you ever ran a 10k in a track it takes a much larger toll on your body, we know this because most of us on here have experienced it.
dodging a race for psychological reasons is stupid - you should never duck a race because you are scared.
We should try to be as brave as possible in everything we do - we need that mindset in the last 400 when it all goes to instinct.
maybe he really has a virus. dunno. But this does smell bad. And I am gullible.
Not that there is anything wrong with it, but Rupp and Farah were aharing a hotel room at the Oxy? The room would be a tax deductible expense.
bit gay isn't it??
sharing a room like
rupp carrying mo to the bathroom cos he sick wtf like
dont NOP have doctors for this??
* wrote:
Thinking about, Kenenisa should now skip the 10,000 and just line for the 5,000.
Don't announce it. Don't enter it.
Just line up. Bandit the race.
That would be awesome, haha
easy weeks wrote:
* wrote:Thinking about, Kenenisa should now skip the 10,000 and just line for the 5,000.
Don't announce it. Don't enter it.
Just line up. Bandit the race.
That would be awesome, haha
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oh man that would make me a bekele fan for life if he switched to the 5000.
My theory: It was a REVERSED chicken race and Al Sal is a genious! They signed up Mo against the Bekeles to see if THEY would switch, if they were scared or if they were eager to check if they had catched up over winter. So now Team Nike knows that, while at the same time leaving the Bekele brothers there to fight off the built up testosterone among themselves spreading discomfort in the Ethiopian camp...
Even when healthy the 10k takes a lot out of your body. After the 10k final in the Olympics last year, both Farah and Rupp were still tired when they had to run the 5k prelims 3-4 days later. Why should Farah expend a lot of energy running the 10k, possibly lose, then be laid up for a week (or more) afterward?
Even running the 5k could have bad post-race consequences for Farah, someone who's already had a late start this year.
Salazar is right. Race the mile or not at all.
Les wrote:
Even when healthy the 10k takes a lot out of your body. After the 10k final in the Olympics last year, both Farah and Rupp were still tired when they had to run the 5k prelims 3-4 days later. Why should Farah expend a lot of energy running the 10k, possibly lose, then be laid up for a week (or more) afterward?
Even running the 5k could have bad post-race consequences for Farah, someone who's already had a late start this year.
Salazar is right. Race the mile or not at all.
The point still remains that if one is compromised by the lingering effects of a virus, one does not have a very good chance to run a 5000m to the best of one's ability, any more than one may do so at 10,000m. As I asserted last night, their switch makes no sense, even Alberto advising Mo to run the mile makes little sense to me, but the risks of being embarrassed in a non-specialty event are lessened. If you are suffering from the virus still, and Moscow is the goal, then you don't compete at Pre. However, what I believe is that Mo did not want to race Kenenisa and that Mo is close to full strength (even if not peak fitness), or he would not opt to face the formidable field in the 5000m.
agip wrote:dodging a race for psychological reasons is stupid - you should never duck a race because you are scared.
We should try to be as brave as possible in everything we do - we need that mindset in the last 400 when it all goes to instinct.
"Never" is an awfully strong statement. As a fan, I don't approve of all the race-dodging that goes on -- but as you suggest, athlete psyches can be pretty fragile. (Other than all the tough guys who post on letsrun, who are invariably brave in the last 400.)
Right now, Mo has a mental edge over everyone else in the world. He's not at 100% physically thanks to a virus. Leaving aside the potential health/training setback of running an all-out 10,000 while under the weather (which I think is significant), he also potentially gives up that mental edge by showing vulnerability. Why not preserve it?
Again, as a fan, I love seeing the top guys race each other frequently. But there's a reason that, say, the top 100m guys rarely race each other outside championships. It's not just because of money. It's because that mental game matters. The top guys don't play these games because they're stupid. They play them because they're smart.
Les wrote:
Even when healthy the 10k takes a lot out of your body. After the 10k final in the Olympics last year, both Farah and Rupp were still tired when they had to run the 5k prelims 3-4 days later. Why should Farah expend a lot of energy running the 10k, possibly lose, then be laid up for a week (or more) afterward?
Even running the 5k could have bad post-race consequences for Farah, someone who's already had a late start this year.
Salazar is right. Race the mile or not at all.
I understand that a race can make you tired. What I don't understand is why you think the 5000m would be any less tiring. Can you explain that?